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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:35 pm
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We'll be lucky to get a second rounder - more likely a third.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:36 pm
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4 year ago he held out and since then has had egg on his face due to on and off field performance. Asking for a trade may to him save a bit of dignity before he even looks at his next contract thats on the table from us. It may not be the whole reason, just a small slice of the pie I'm guessing.
Sad to see him go. I really liked Cloke committing to a marking contest. He's number one asset.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:37 pm
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Now for Brown
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What'sinaname Libra



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:37 pm
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Just one thing Collingwood

DO NOT GET VICKERY



* Lazza, I don't mean to sound negative but I really do not want VICKERY spudding it up in our forward line


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:40 pm
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Lazza wrote:
Haff wrote:
magpieazza wrote:
Pick 15-20 sounds fair to me.

Maybe 4 years ago, he's only got 2 years left and the other club takes all the risk. I'll take late second rounder and be happy. Pick 30ish best we can hope for.


Totally disagree. I have always rated Cloke although I have been a bit frustrated and disappointed (with numerous others) at his kicking for goal. Anything LESS than a first rounder, a combined second and third rounder OR a combination of a player/s plus a 2/3 rounder will be a "getting our arses kicked" situation.


You're assuming he is the player he was 5 years ago. He's really a shadow of that player.
He's only got 2-3 years left. No way anyone is giving up a first rounder!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:47 pm
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Haff wrote:
Lazza wrote:
Haff wrote:
magpieazza wrote:
Pick 15-20 sounds fair to me.

Maybe 4 years ago, he's only got 2 years left and the other club takes all the risk. I'll take late second rounder and be happy. Pick 30ish best we can hope for.


Totally disagree. I have always rated Cloke although I have been a bit frustrated and disappointed (with numerous others) at his kicking for goal. Anything LESS than a first rounder, a combined second and third rounder OR a combination of a player/s plus a 2/3 rounder will be a "getting our arses kicked" situation.


You're assuming he is the player he was 5 years ago. He's really a shadow of that player.
He's only got 2-3 years left. No way anyone is giving up a first rounder!


Yeah be lucky to get a second rounder. And with the right coach he'll be quite valuable. If he goes to the dogs he'll slot in nicely with Crameri and Boyd.

Very disappointing day to have a long term champion of the club want out with a year on his contract.
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thompsoc 



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:47 pm
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And power forwards grow on trees don't they?
Hardest player to get.
You get a good one every 25 years or so.
So our next one should come right about 2040.
Thanks Bux ...you couldn't manage him properly could you.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:47 pm
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Haff wrote:
Lazza wrote:
Haff wrote:
magpieazza wrote:
Pick 15-20 sounds fair to me.

Maybe 4 years ago, he's only got 2 years left and the other club takes all the risk. I'll take late second rounder and be happy. Pick 30ish best we can hope for.


Totally disagree. I have always rated Cloke although I have been a bit frustrated and disappointed (with numerous others) at his kicking for goal. Anything LESS than a first rounder, a combined second and third rounder OR a combination of a player/s plus a 2/3 rounder will be a "getting our arses kicked" situation.


You're assuming he is the player he was 5 years ago. He's really a shadow of that player.
He's only got 2-3 years left. No way anyone is giving up a first rounder!


Fair enough comment. You are probably right.

However another poster has stated that Nick Reiwoldt is almost 5 years older than Cloke and he has been relatively injury free. Cloke could be around for 3 to 5 years more.
I would still love a first rounder or a various combination of lower picks/players for him.

Time will tell!! Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:51 pm
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Lazza wrote:
John Wren wrote:
this makes me sad. Sad


With you here JW. I always rated Cloke highly and loved him as a Magpie.


+1
Very disappointed.

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Lazza 



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:53 pm
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What'sinaname wrote:
Just one thing Collingwood

DO NOT GET VICKERY

* Lazza, I don't mean to sound negative but I really do not want VICKERY spudding it up in our forward line


See dude, for me, that is not being negative, it is stating an opinion.

But when you go on and on and on negatively about Bucks/Collingwood/Eddie etc., it gets extremely tiresome and boring Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:54 pm
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Very sad another premiership champ wants out of this club

Apparently there is no evidence this is anyway Buckley related
So please don't upset anyone by bringing it up
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:55 pm
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Witts and Cloke for Stringer or Boyd. They're premiership wi dos is about to open now and they need an established power forward and ruckman.
Otherwise Cloke for Jong (and some pick movement) is the likely outcome, which doesn't really help our need for added a-grade class.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:00 pm
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CarringbushCigar wrote:
Very sad another premiership champ wants out of this club

Apparently there is no evidence this is anyway Buckley related
So please don't upset anyone by bringing it up


Why stop now CC? Question

Are the White Ants having a stop work meeting today or something???? Twisted Evil Razz

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:00 pm
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To put it in perspective...the following Coll premiership heroes played elsewhere to end their careers as well:

D.Monkhurst
T.Francis
S.Russell
M.McGuane
C.Starcevic
J.Manson

It might be sad, but next year, 2010 is a staggering 7 years ago! We grabbed 2010, should've grabbed 2011, but that's it. We're doing the right thing.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:01 pm
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Best for both parties. Cloke gets the fresh start he needs, we clear out some dead wood and can bring in someone new.

Cloke is a great player in his way but we are a much better side without him. He'll go better at another club; we will go better with a more mobile forward who can kick; and the club he goes to gets a ready-made power forward. It's a win-win-win.

Do the trade.

First round pick is out of the question at his age. Third round pick not worth considering. A second rounder or (more likely) a player is fair.

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