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qldmagpie67 



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:07 pm
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Bob Sugar wrote:
First of all a mommy and a Daddy have to have 'special' cuddles.


Bob please send this info to Mr Dane Swan
Tell him we won't be upset if he isn't married at the time
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:44 pm
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GoWoodsmen wrote:
Haven't they just modified the system so that clubs can no longer trade for more picks than they have places on their list? Not sure if that affects us or not. It's all too bloody confusing if you ask me!


There is something along the lines clubs must turnover X number of players each year and that's how draft picks are allocated essentially. But there is also the rookie categories to be used by clubs
I do remember something about clubs can't stockpile draft picks they can't use meaning if we have 6 vacancies in our list we aren't allowed to have 8 picks unless we are able to use them in father son bidding. I think any unused picks after round 4 are voided by memory


They've stopped clubs using "hidden" draft picks

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The AFL has made one change to its bidding system that will come into immediate effect this year, with clubs no longer able to access 'hidden picks' during the draft.

It means clubs will only be able to enter the draft with the number of selections that matches the available primary list positions at that time.

Last year some clubs entered the draft with more picks than they had available spots on their list. The extra picks were purely held so they could pay for academy prospects that attracted early bids.

The rule tweak means if a club needs to use multiple selections in matching a bid, and therefore require extra selections to be filled on its list, the new draft picks would be given to the club at the back of the draft so not to impact other clubs' picks.

Clubs not being able to use 'hidden' picks means they cannot store points in late draft picks that they never intended to use.

It reduces the incentive to trade backwards in the draft and for them to accumulate a large group of picks and convert them into points.

In removing hidden picks, the AFL has stopped clubs from taking picks to the draft that they never intended on using on a player.

Last year, the Brisbane Lions went into the draft with five spots open on their list and their first hidden draft selection was No.42. But that pick would have been forfeited under the new rules and the advantage they gained from trading backwards would have been lost.

Or, it could have delisted an extra player before the draft and then been free to use pick No.42.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-22/draft-loophole-to-remain-despite-some-clubs-concern

So the way I read that is that, at bidding time we can only access the number of draft picks that equal the number of spots on our list. So even if we trade a player for a 2nd and 3rd round pick, we need to have enough vacancies to let us use those picks.

makes it trickier but not impossible.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:37 pm
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^^ yeah, already got 3 spots.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:58 am
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Put both the kids in moon boots and full arm casts. Send them for shoulder surgery; they're both young surely they've got pimples on they're shoulders that need popping.
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A lot could depend on whether a couple of smartarse clubs, footscray comes to mend, put in false bids for either player. The backlash on letting sons of legends walking to other clubs could bring down the board.
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:27 pm
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ronrat wrote:
A lot could depend on whether a couple of smartarse clubs, footscray comes to mend, put in false bids for either player. The backlash on letting sons of legends walking to other clubs could bring down the board.


The dogs did it with Dunkley and the Swans folded.

The club that bids has to be prepared to draft the player if the club nominating them for a father son folds like that, so it's high risk just playing smartarse.

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What'sinaname Libra



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:33 pm
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ronrat wrote:
A lot could depend on whether a couple of smartarse clubs, footscray comes to mend, put in false bids for either player. The backlash on letting sons of legends walking to other clubs could bring down the board.


If they do, then they can overpay for Brown and/or Daicos.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:45 am
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Both will be at Pies
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