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RudeBoy
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It's the off season and I am bored, so here's a challenge. We've all had a go at picking our possible best team for 2017, but how about we list the team, leaving blanks where we need much better players? My list is based on the assumption that Scharenberg, Ramsay and Elliott all make full recoveries and are available to play.
B: Maynard ? Langdon
HB: Scharenberg Reid Ramsay
C: Crisp Pendles Aish
HF: De Goey ? Fasolo
F: Elliott Moore ?
Foll: Grundy, Treloar, Adams
IC: Sidey, Varcoe, ?, ?
Obviously we have a host of players who could fill these gaps, such as:
Cox
White
Wills
Brown
Crocker
Broomhead
Blair
Phillips
However, I suggest they'd all need to improve significantly (which some should) or be replaced by better options if we are to become a top 4 contender. |
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Mossi 
Joined: 20 May 2002
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| RB Just had a quick look and looks like you missed Howe, fast becoming a favourite of mine. |
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RudeBoy
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| Mossi wrote: | | RB Just had a quick look and looks like you missed Howe, fast becoming a favourite of mine. |
Well spotted Mossi.
In: Howe
Out: Langdon (possibly to the IC bench) |
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jackcass 
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
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Looks about right once Howe slotted back into the starting 18.
Will watch with interest to see how Cox progresses in 2017. If we don't get an alternative via trade or draft he and White are going to be pivotal to our chances in 2017.
I think someone will need to be playing pretty good footy to keep Smith and Marsh out of the side with another preseason under their respective belts. Smith in particular would be vying with Crisp for that wing position. |
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What'sinaname 
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Gault obviously fills the gap in the forward line. Lock him in Eddie.
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Mugwump
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You're pretty bullish on Scharenberg for a bloke who has hardly been on the park and I think Sinclair, if he gets over his concussion issue, is a potential star. Unfortunately we have not seen the best of him given injuries, but I'd have Sinclair there in place of Schaz on exposed form. of course, if Schaz is as good as the hype, he'll be there.
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stui magpie 
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| Quote: | B: Maynard ? Langdon
HB: Scharenberg Reid Ramsay
C: Crisp Pendles Aish
HF: De Goey ? Fasolo
F: Elliott Moore ?
Foll: Grundy, Treloar, Adams
IC: Sidey, Varcoe, ?, ?
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I'd put Cox at FF with Elliot and Fas in the pockets, play Moore at CHF with a roaming commission to use his athleticism. De Goey and Sidey as the HFF.
Key Backs are Reid, with FB Frost or Brown. Keefe is a maybe depending how he pulls up with many teams playing 2 ruckmen with one in the forward line, or just 200cm+ key forwards, Keeffe will be valuable
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Not convinced on either Sharra or Langdon. Howe gets one HBF and Manyard is a lock for mine down back somewhere, so there's one small back job up for grabs, ideally someone with speed and good disposal. Reid and Howe take care of the intercept marking. Varcoe?
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Pies4shaw
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Can Scharenberg stand unassisted, yet? Is Elliott still in two pieces in the loading bay? Have they found Ramsay's other leg? Will Treloar ever be able to kick for goal as well as Cloke? Can Pendlebury improve a little each year for the next decade to take up the slack? Can Sidebottom get a late growth-spurt and take over at CHF?
These are all extremely valuable questions. We should revisit them, yet again, on Sunday. |
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Presti35 
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I posted in the wrong thread, sorry.
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
Location: Between London and Melbourne
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| jackcass wrote: | Looks about right once Howe slotted back into the starting 18.
Will watch with interest to see how Cox progresses in 2017. If we don't get an alternative via trade or draft he and White are going to be pivotal to our chances in 2017.
I think someone will need to be playing pretty good footy to keep Smith and Marsh out of the side with another preseason under their respective belts. Smith in particular would be vying with Crisp for that wing position. |
Funny, but I do not see Cox as a positive at all, unless it is in the ruck (and even there, I have my doubts). He seems to me the ultimate slow, immobile forward, and I think that his inclusion hurt us last year in most games (esp Richmond), as he provides zero defensive pressure up forward.
Could he become a top quality ruckman and release Grundy for CHF ? I have my doubts that he'll ever be a patch on the excellent Brodie in ruck, and Brodie was not crash hot up forward either, when tried there in the past.
So I tend to discount Cox from my 2017 calculations at this stage. As usual when dismissing a Pies player , hope I am wrong...
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qldmagpie67
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | Can Scharenberg stand unassisted, yet? Is Elliott still in two pieces in the loading bay? Have they found Ramsay's other leg? Will Treloar ever be able to kick for goal as well as Cloke? Can Pendlebury improve a little each year for the next decade to take up the slack? Can Sidebottom get a late growth-spurt and take over at CHF?
These are all extremely valuable questions. We should revisit them, yet again, on Sunday. |
I know it's not Sunday but important questions like this need urgent attention
Yes Scharenberg can stand unassisted since we installed those wooden legs. He's slowly getting used to them and hopefully our budget stretches to adding feet to the legs sooner than later
Elliott has been moved from the loading dock and is now in cold storage (cyragenic) we are bullish about his chances to be right for our 2312 assault on the premiership under the guidance of our new head coach Zeb Buckley the great great great great great great grandson of Nathan
We did actually find Ramsays leg it was stowed in Swanny's locker as spare parts in case his operation had failed
Treloar's kicking has improved markedly he actually now understands that the 2 big posts in the middle should be his targets. Apparently he was coached by Demir Cloke as a child and had to have a full frontal labottomy to adjust his thinking
Pendles continued improvement is a given in fact in our 2312 premiership assault he actually plays midfield, ruck, CHF, CHB & wing in at the same time
Unfortunately Sidey suffered a career ending injury. He was unfortunately run over by a bulldozer in his bath tub at home by a crazed magpie supporter from Queensland screaming no more dinky kicks. The good news was the bulldozer was unharmed as there were not awards or trophies in the lounge room to get stuck in the treads.
P4S I think we need to revisit these questions again maybe tomorrow to see if there's been any further developments |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| Mugwump wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | Looks about right once Howe slotted back into the starting 18.
Will watch with interest to see how Cox progresses in 2017. If we don't get an alternative via trade or draft he and White are going to be pivotal to our chances in 2017.
I think someone will need to be playing pretty good footy to keep Smith and Marsh out of the side with another preseason under their respective belts. Smith in particular would be vying with Crisp for that wing position. |
Funny, but I do not see Cox as a positive at all, unless it is in the ruck (and even there, I have my doubts). He seems to me the ultimate slow, immobile forward, and I think that his inclusion hurt us last year in most games (esp Richmond), as he provides zero defensive pressure up forward.
Could he become a top quality ruckman and release Grundy for CHF ? I have my doubts that he'll ever be a patch on the excellent Brodie in ruck, and Brodie was not crash hot up forward either, when tried there in the past.
So I tend to discount Cox from my 2017 calculations at this stage. As usual when dismissing a Pies player , hope I am wrong... |
Still learning the craft and would have gained enormously from his exposure this year. I'm hopeful that will see further gains in 2017. I see him more as a forward who rucks occasionally. |
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| What'sinaname wrote: | | Gault obviously fills the gap in the forward line. Lock him in Eddie. |
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