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doriswilgus 



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:02 pm
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Magpietothemax wrote:
Once again Nathan Buckley bewilders and stupefies me with his totally incomprehensible and unjust selection "system". Whatever anyone may claim otherwise, I could not care less. Travis Cloke is still our best forward. To omit him yet again is just ...what ...words fail me... insane? vindictive? Cloke was way better than several others in the team who got to keep their position, including Jarrod Blair. I have never criticized Blair here, and I will not start now. But he clearly played a far inferior game to Cloke last Friday night. Cloke was also clearly superior to Jesse White as well.
Why are willingly decimating our own forward line by leaving out Cloke who had a fair game last week and leaving in others who were ineffectual?
This entire perspective of getting rid of Cloke, astonishes me. Who do we have, in the immediate term, to replace Cloke? The arguments advanced, that Cloke does not suit us, because we are not an accurately delivering midfield, amaze me. Why would we get rid of Cloke, rather than improve the accuracy of our delivery? I am just astounded by this whole campaign against Cloke, which in reality emanated from Buckley and has gripped unfortunately it seems to me the majority here. This latest selection debacle is probably the final touch to a grotesque farce. Why would we not keep Cloke for one more year as Darcy Moore develops? Crazy stuff, and this latest selection debacle is just the last straw for me in deducing that Nathan Buckley is not going to lead us forward to our next Premiership


I wish there was a like button here,because that post was right on the money.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:13 pm
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piedys wrote:
And posters wonder why I go off my <snip> head... Shocked
The selection committee should be renamed: the sabotage committee

Yes. They are, for all intents and purposes, acting as a fifth column.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:16 pm
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robevpau1 wrote:


Agree - Bucks will be building these kids up to have a real dip tomorrow night and they all have a couple of weeks to show their wares before list management kicks in.

...ummm...no he won't. According to Bucks, his role is not to motivate or build anyone up. That all has to come from within.
From what I can observe, Bucks' only role psychologically is to tear down those for whom he has developed an antipathy, such as Travis Cloke.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:19 pm
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Watching this club implode is frankly stunning to say the least, I've never seen anything like it in my life. And that's real talk.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:20 pm
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The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote:
He dropped Cloke ahead of Blair... you've got to be shitting me - that's seriously unbelievable!!!
mr Blair mastered the art of guarding grass last week, this is all mr potato asks of his soldiers, guarding grass aka zone-all awareness is priority numbers 1 through 3..... The rest will come, in the 6th the rebuild in 2038.....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:01 pm
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C: Steele Sidebottom, Adam Treloar, James Aish
Foll: Brodie Grundy, Scott Pendlebury, Taylor Adams


I really like the Look of that Midfield

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:07 pm
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RudeBoy wrote:
piedys wrote:
slangman wrote:
Geez how can you have any faith and hope in the current coach when our selections are confusing and without logic.
I love Buckley the player, but the coaching version has me losing interest and hope at a very fast rate.
I'm so over this season just the same as the last 3.


I see Mr.Potatohead has been using his chook-raffle selection system again.
And if Grundy goes down, Goldsack to ruck [again]?
Or just throw the barely fit Moore into the ruck, and just bust him properly.
No farewell games for Toovey it seems. Nice kick in the guts for him.

And surprise, surprise, the kickless wonder retains his spot.

Bullflogs by their biggest margin over us since 2005.


....... Pies by 17 points.


Has someone been spiking your drinks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP8nGNbk7oQ

I'm going & hoping we're gunna win, barracking like mad but hope is the word I use. I think we're going down like the titanic.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:29 pm
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[quote="watt price tully"]
RudeBoy wrote:


I'm going & hoping we're gunna win, barracking like mad but hope is the word I use. I think we're going down like the titanic.

More like a submarine going down than the Titanic, since we were already sunk before the ball was bounced at the selection table.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:34 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
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C: Steele Sidebottom, Adam Treloar, James Aish
Foll: Brodie Grundy, Scott Pendlebury, Taylor Adams


I really like the Look of that Midfield


It is quality and will be for years to come. Bucks can take a fair portion of the credit but few people will recognise this.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:40 pm
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[quote="Magpietothemax"]
watt price tully wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:


I'm going & hoping we're gunna win, barracking like mad but hope is the word I use. I think we're going down like the titanic.

More like a submarine going down than the Titanic, since we were already sunk before the ball was bounced at the selection table.


That's not my quote. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:42 pm
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watt price tully wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:
piedys wrote:
slangman wrote:
Geez how can you have any faith and hope in the current coach when our selections are confusing and without logic.
I love Buckley the player, but the coaching version has me losing interest and hope at a very fast rate.
I'm so over this season just the same as the last 3.


I see Mr.Potatohead has been using his chook-raffle selection system again.
And if Grundy goes down, Goldsack to ruck [again]?
Or just throw the barely fit Moore into the ruck, and just bust him properly.
No farewell games for Toovey it seems. Nice kick in the guts for him.

And surprise, surprise, the kickless wonder retains his spot.

Bullflogs by their biggest margin over us since 2005.


....... Pies by 17 points.


Has someone been spiking your drinks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP8nGNbk7oQ

I'm going & hoping we're gunna win, barracking like mad but hope is the word I use. I think we're going down like the titanic.


Darcy Moore will kick 5 goals and Oxley 4. Wills will be BOG. I just hope Rupert doesn't get reported for slam dunking Bottempelli into the hard Etihad turf.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:51 pm
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kymbo5@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:
Quote:
C: Steele Sidebottom, Adam Treloar, James Aish
Foll: Brodie Grundy, Scott Pendlebury, Taylor Adams


I really like the Look of that Midfield


It is quality and will be for years to come. Bucks can take a fair portion of the credit but few people will recognise this.

So Pendles and Sidebottom were there before Bux
We sold our arse to get Treloar and Aish.
Adams was swapped for H Shaw and Shaw has become a AA player.
Which leaves Grundy.
Grundog was always recognised as the best big man in his draft.
But all the other teams wanted midfielders, etc...
So Bux has his hand right over this midfield.
Get a objective view on things please.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:02 pm
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I'd like to thank the selection committee for having the guts to accept that enough is enough with the insipid performance that a few of the senior players have been putting up this year. If Cloke is unhappy with his treatment from the senior coach I would say to him please shut the door on the way out of Holden centre. I would say to Williams the same thing as Cloke and assist their request to transfer to the club of their choice. Then we might have players who actually want to play for the club where the concept of winning means something.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:07 pm
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BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
I'd like to thank the selection committee for having the guts to accept that enough is enough with the insipid performance that a few of the senior players have been putting up this year. If Cloke is unhappy with his treatment from the senior coach I would say to him please shut the door on the way out of Holden centre. I would say to Williams the same thing as Cloke and assist their request to transfer to the club of their choice. Then we might have players who actually want to play for the club where the concept of winning means something.

Winning doesn't mean much at Collingwood!
It is all about ego's.
Eddie
Bux
Pert
But keep believing the side by side mantra.
And we don't eat our own!

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thompsoc wrote:
BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
I'd like to thank the selection committee for having the guts to accept that enough is enough with the insipid performance that a few of the senior players have been putting up this year. If Cloke is unhappy with his treatment from the senior coach I would say to him please shut the door on the way out of Holden centre. I would say to Williams the same thing as Cloke and assist their request to transfer to the club of their choice. Then we might have players who actually want to play for the club where the concept of winning means something.

Winning doesn't mean much at Collingwood!
It is all about ego's.
Eddie
Bux
Pert
But keep believing the side by side mantra.
And we don't eat our own!

Agree Thompsoc. I am disgusted by these posters who, because of their blind faith in Buckley. disparage so vitriolically our players. The assertion that winning does not mean anything to Travis Cloke or Marley Williams is disgusting. "Shut the door on the way out" to one of our great Centre Half Forwards, hey? And really, when you watch Williams' blind, catapulting energy, irrespective of his skill errors, are you going to claim that winning means nothing to him?
Just tired of that crap. These guys are not getting the necessary skills training that other teams are getting. We are clearly below par in refining the skills and delivery of our team. Our current coaching regime is simply not getting the best out of our players.
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