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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:20 pm
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:44 pm
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Rudd's a narcissistic twat, like becoming PM it's just for his own ego. Still bitter about being shafted by Gillard then the electorate he just wanted to be back in the public eye.

Still, I couldn't think of an organization that deserves him more.


Would you be Pissed IF someone backstabbed you at Work?

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I'd be disappointed in myself for not getting them first. What's your point?
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Turnbull showed he is on a short leash. In the scheme of things his decision was petty.

Now Rudd has "explosively" exposed how small Turnbull is by this wrong decision & it may well come back to bite him. That Corey Bernadi could so brazenly walk Turnbull & Bishop amongst others shows how precarious Turnbull's position is.

On the other hand Turnbull allowed himself to be in this position & was in effect damned if he did & damned if he didn't & may well be using this for leverage in other issues down the track where he may need to stare down the rabid right wing extremist christian nutters in his party.

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/rudd-snubbed-by-turnbull-no-job-no-meeting-20160729-gqgvgt.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:42 am
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Dave The Man wrote:
Wokko wrote:
Rudd's a narcissistic twat, like becoming PM it's just for his own ego. Still bitter about being shafted by Gillard then the electorate he just wanted to be back in the public eye.

Still, I couldn't think of an organization that deserves him more.


Would you be Pissed IF someone backstabbed you at Work?

Just ask Rudd and Gillard how they feel being backstabbed and ousted from the prime ministership in 2010 and 2013.

How is this relevant to the thread though? No one was backstabbed in this instance.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:39 am
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watt price tully wrote:
Turnbull showed he is on a short leash. In the scheme of things his decision was petty.

Now Rudd has "explosively" exposed how small Turnbull is by this wrong decision & it may well come back to bite him. That Corey Bernadi could so brazenly walk Turnbull & Bishop amongst others shows how precarious Turnbull's position is.

On the other hand Turnbull allowed himself to be in this position & was in effect damned if he did & damned if he didn't & may well be using this for leverage in other issues down the track where he may need to stare down the rabid right wing extremist christian nutters in his party.

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/rudd-snubbed-by-turnbull-no-job-no-meeting-20160729-gqgvgt.html

Why was it "petty"? It's usually considered that the UN Secretary General should be someone who can read and write. It's not a diplomatic posting to hide a failed politician. We should only put forward people we think are fit for the post.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:41 pm
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watt price tully wrote:
Turnbull showed he is on a short leash. In the scheme of things his decision was petty.

Now Rudd has "explosively" exposed how small Turnbull is by this wrong decision & it may well come back to bite him. That Corey Bernadi could so brazenly walk Turnbull & Bishop amongst others shows how precarious Turnbull's position is.

On the other hand Turnbull allowed himself to be in this position & was in effect damned if he did & damned if he didn't & may well be using this for leverage in other issues down the track where he may need to stare down the rabid right wing extremist christian nutters in his party.

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/rudd-snubbed-by-turnbull-no-job-no-meeting-20160729-gqgvgt.html


Those revelations do look pretty embarrassing for Turnbull.

So, a win-win, then.

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Remember Bernadi was making noises about starting up his own conservative 'movement' which had all the ingredients of actually being 'party' without explicitly mentioning it. If the conservative vote was split in this country then the Libs would be out for a generation and an effective opposition is a necessity of a two party system.

I think that shot across the bow gave the Liberal Right considerable pull, but they wouldn't want to overplay their hand because it's all based on an epic bluff.
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Wasn't the suggestion to make it a third Coalition partner, thus not actually splitting the vote? I agree with you though, it's just a bluff members of that party would never have a chance of being PM, and splitting the party would destabilise it and potentially destroy it in the long run. Indeed, it's such an obvious bluff that I'm guessing Turnbull won't be losing too much sleep over it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:17 pm
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Pies4shaw wrote:
watt price tully wrote:
Turnbull showed he is on a short leash. In the scheme of things his decision was petty.

Now Rudd has "explosively" exposed how small Turnbull is by this wrong decision & it may well come back to bite him. That Corey Bernadi could so brazenly walk Turnbull & Bishop amongst others shows how precarious Turnbull's position is.

On the other hand Turnbull allowed himself to be in this position & was in effect damned if he did & damned if he didn't & may well be using this for leverage in other issues down the track where he may need to stare down the rabid right wing extremist christian nutters in his party.

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/rudd-snubbed-by-turnbull-no-job-no-meeting-20160729-gqgvgt.html

Why was it "petty"? It's usually considered that the UN Secretary General should be someone who can read and write. It's not a diplomatic posting to hide a failed politician. We should only put forward people we think are fit for the post.

You know very well what I'm talking about. Don't be all pollyanna on me now😉

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David, your argument about the far right nutters not forming their own party because then none of its members could ever hope to be PM is nonsensical.

The reality is that even the Liberal Party retains some basic common sense and, as a matter of practical politics, would not for one moment consider allocating a ministerial role, let alone the leadership itself to dangerous weirdo extremists like Bernadi, Christansen, Dutton, Abetz, Morrison, Hockey, Abbott, or Andrews. No Australian political party is as stupid as that. Great conservative leaders like Fraser and Menzies would turn in their graves and government would become a vile circus of idiocy. Completely impossible.

Er ....

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:23 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
Wokko wrote:
Rudd's a narcissistic twat, like becoming PM it's just for his own ego. Still bitter about being shafted by Gillard then the electorate he just wanted to be back in the public eye.

Still, I couldn't think of an organization that deserves him more.


Would you be Pissed IF someone backstabbed you at Work?


After 30 years working in HR, my back is covered in 2 inches thick of scar tissue.

If I get through a week when no one tries to back stab me, I wonder what I'm doing wrong.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:13 pm
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Rudd back in the news after the latest leaks from WikiLeaks.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/kevin-rudd-sought-backing-for-un-role-from-clintons-campaign-hacked-emails-reveal-20161024-gs9tig.html

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America wasn't so lucky!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-20/kevin-rudd-appointed-washington-us-ambassador/101791798

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He should fit right in. Washington is full of clueless narcissistic twats who drink their own bathwater. We're the unlucky ones.
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