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watt price tully Scorpio



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:03 am
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Thank the lord for the ABC:

You'd think this was Guantanamo Bay, Deep South USA in the 1930's or Abu Ghraib.

What a f*cking disgrace: Our national shame. The NT government needs to be run out of town & the Federal government should take over.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2016/07/25/4504895.htm

http://www.news.com.au/national/abc-four-corners-reveals-footage-showing-extent-of-alleged-abuse-of-youths-in-the-northern-territory/news-story/a4280b966916b1867fd6f25853b4aec9

http://www.theage.com.au/national/abc-four-corners-gillian-triggs-calls-for-inquiry-into-youth-detention-abuse-20160725-gqdkjj.html

Almost all the victims are aboriginal. Many of the guards in question are kick boxers who lied & covered up. The issue however here is the treatment of children in care in juvenile justice.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:12 am
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Saw some of that footage on Facebook tonight, WPT. Appalling stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:18 am
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Yeah I posted a link in the WTF thread, just unbelievable that anyone, let alone three grown men, thinks this is appropriate. They should all go to jail themselves, general pop.

Thank god it's been exposed.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:05 am
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ABC Q&A Retweeted

RN Breakfast ‏@RNBreakfast 12m12 minutes ago
BREAKING: The PM @TurnbullMalcolm will urgently establish a Royal Commission into the NT Justice Scandal #4Corners
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:27 am
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Seems like this has been going on for a very long time. There was the below review done over 18 months ago.

Northern Territory Review into Youth Detention Centres January 2015 by Michael Vita

https://www.nt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/238198/Review-of-the-Northern-Territory-Youth-Detention-System-January-2015.pdf

There is a summary of incidents on page 59 that include the actions in the videos ....SUMMARY OF INCIDENTS DECEMBER 2009 SEPTEMBER 2014


Why has it taken so long to come out in the news & what results were achieved by this investigation in 2015?

And this, from 7 months ago - NT juvenile justice: "a blight on the entire Australian legal system"

https://blogs.crikey.com.au/northern/2016/01/07/nt-juvenile-justice-system-a-blight-on-the-entire-australian-legal-system/

https://www.greenleft.org.au/node/60922

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/10/20/juve-o20.html

Do we need a minute of footage to do something? Mind boggling.

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watt price tully Scorpio



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:59 am
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The Northern Territory shouldn't ever be allowed to be a state. It is a redneck pioneer place in many areas with incompetent management in the public service & bureaucratic structures. The CLP government is incompetent if not corrupt & needs to be held to account. That account will never be able to occur in the NT unfortunately (selling or leasing the port for something like 30 years to the Chinese ffs)?

Some of the other issues that cut across here include:

1. Entrenched racism (despite there being white offenders (the minority),
1.1 There are twice as many young aboriginals incarcerated since the royal commission into black deaths in custody more than 25years ago
2. Grog: (the current government LCP government has allowed more grog to be sold not less
3. Stupid laws that incarcerate kids for property offences so that CLP can say they are going to be tough on crime - never trust any government that says they are going to be tough on crime.
4. Poorly trained staff which goes back to incompetent management / incompetent public service

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:46 pm
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Amazing how something is done as it's been exposed on the ABC at the same time the Government is trying to get rid of the ABC. More millions spent by the white man on a Royal Commission that will achieve nothing in the end just to make them feel good.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:08 pm
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Shows that these Cops abuise there Postion.

NT is like the Wild West

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:41 pm
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watt price tully wrote:
never trust any government that says they are going to be tough on crime.


Hit the nail on the head there.

Just watched the whole episode, by the way. Absolutely sickening and indefensible and if this is happening to juveniles, how are adults being treated?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:43 pm
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I think sickening and indefensible and if this is a lot of things.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:35 pm
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David wrote:
watt price tully wrote:
never trust any government that says they are going to be tough on crime.


Hit the nail on the head there.

Just watched the whole episode, by the way. Absolutely sickening and indefensible and if this is happening to juveniles, how are adults being treated?
If only the ABC could get the same footage from Manus Island.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:12 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
Shows that these Cops abuise there Postion.

NT is like the Wild West


They're not cops. They're poorly trained prison guards.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:18 pm
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Skids wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:
Shows that these Cops abuise there Postion.

NT is like the Wild West


They're not cops. They're poorly trained prison guards.


They're trained to fight (4 Corners said they're MMA fighters, but the fights looked like unsanctioned brawls.), which is all well and good but they're not trained in conflict resolution, child welfare, psychology or anything you'd think a youth corrections officer would need.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:52 pm
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^ That's exactly what my psychologist was saying today she did some work up there and has seen it all first-hand. Said the footage was appalling but not in the least bit surprising. The unprofessional cowboy mentality in the NT seems to go all the way to the top, which is amusing when the government can't decide who their leader is (remember that?) but not so funny when you realise that the lives of vulnerable people are in their hands.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:37 pm
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I read this article today (haven't watched the 4 corners episode) http://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-truly-shocking-thing-about-the-nts-juvenile-detention-abuse-is-how-many-times-the-alarm-was-raised-and-ignored-2016-7

First thing that struck me was the date stamp on the photo, freeze from CCTV obviously. This shit has been going on for years.

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