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| Adam Treloar v Dylan Shiel |
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Dave The Man 
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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In my view Shiel is a better player than Treloar.
I really rate toby green as well.
Treloar is still an excellent player but not yet as good as Shiel.
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Stinger
Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: Canberra
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| thompsoc wrote: |
I really rate toby green as well.
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Toby "look at me I'm having a shot from 50 after burning two of my team mates 15m out" Green - that Toby Green? |
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mgh3536
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Melbourne
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Treloar does not push back hard at all!!
I see Adams, Pendles, greenwood pushing right into back pocket at times
But Treloar operates from defensive 50 line, forward |
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SteveH67
Joined: 17 Jul 2004
Location: Canberra, Australia
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Dylan Shiel is developing into the next Chris Judd.
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jackcass 
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| He's going bald and collecting brown paper bags and waiflike women? |
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AnthonyC 
Joined: 09 Aug 2002
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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| mgh3536 wrote: | Treloar does not push back hard at all!!
I see Adams, Pendles, greenwood pushing right into back pocket at times
But Treloar operates from defensive 50 line, forward |
Look let's not make things up.
From another thread I posted a couple of weeks ago:
I think this counts season disposals (at the time):
Defensive 50: 59
Defensive Half/Flank: 161
Forward 50: 37
Forward Half/Flank: 140
I'd post the actual heat map, but couldn't be bothered.
Whatever those numbers really mean, he gets a lot of possies deep in the back line.
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| AnthonyC wrote: | | mgh3536 wrote: | Treloar does not push back hard at all!!
I see Adams, Pendles, greenwood pushing right into back pocket at times
But Treloar operates from defensive 50 line, forward |
Look let's not make things up.
From another thread I posted a couple of weeks ago:
I think this counts season disposals (at the time):
Defensive 50: 59
Defensive Half/Flank: 161
Forward 50: 37
Forward Half/Flank: 140
I'd post the actual heat map, but couldn't be bothered.
Whatever those numbers really mean, he gets a lot of possies deep in the back line. |
Think they actually show he does most of his work between the arcs, averaging about 4 a game inside D50 which as I pointed out when this was flagged in the other thread does nothing to counter my perception that he doesn't work as hard defensively as I think he could or should. |
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Presti35 
Dick Lee for Legend Status
Joined: 05 Oct 2001
Location: London, England
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I love Treloar. He is a gun and I am really happy that we got him to the club. I just think that Shiel is a better player.
But Treloar is still a fantastic player.
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Have a look at Treloar's game last night.
He got the ball every couple of minutes.
He always racks up disposals.
But, do these disposals hurt the opposition that much?
No they don't.
Would you take the 15 or so disposals each that the Burgoyne or Rioli
had on friday night or their combined total that Treloar had?
It is a simple answer.
Treloar is not a great kick, the ball floats and he doesn't have great penetration with his kicking.
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courtza
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Treloar's explosive run and carry is his biggest asset at the moment. He muffs alot of his kicks off said runs which he should improve with time and experience hopefully.
Haven't seen enough of Shiel to make a good comparison, but I'll vote Treloar cause he plays for the Pies. |
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AnthonyC
Joined: 09 Aug 2002
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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Last night's game showed it very clearly. As much as I think he is a good player, Adam is not a good kick.
Nathan just spend as much time as you can with him and teach him how to kick. If he can get that right he will be elite, it's basically the only skill he lacks in.
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simon tonna
Joined: 24 Oct 2013
Location: carindale
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ill say treloar as he has more game than shields atm.
our man tackles, is evasive, is elite by hand and has the desire
to be the best he can be.
last year before shields was injured was a better player due
to his kicking efficiency but treloar and the work he applies
upon himself took the pro forma for the two and is still ahead.
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Bucks2014
Joined: 15 Feb 2014
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Honestly why should we be even comparing these 2. We chased Treloar and here he is.
His kicking was down last night, but bloody hell our forward structure was truly horrendous. All tall forwards flying for the ball. Or all forwards running to the same position.
I also thought he was trying to kick to advantage, for reasons unknown our forwards wanted to play from behind.
I still can't believe how poor they were.
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