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Darkstranger
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | Hopefully, they'll delist White. White is almost as old as Cloke, he's not even a quarter as good as Cloke and he's not getting to get any better at this late stage.
I struggle to see how Collingwood will be competitive going forward - Moore is the only KPP we've invested a serious draft pick in for a decade and it is starting to show. Cloke, Reid and Brown are all nearing the end and we have nobody on the list of their size and talent to take over. Unless the game can somehow be dominated by a game plan built around slow half-back flankers and an average midfield, we are in very serious trouble. |
Not sure if serious? White has been our best forward all year and can play around the ground? Are you drunk?
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| He's certainly a player capable of having the same impact in any position on the ground. We can agree on that much. |
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Raw Hammer
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Reid is nearing the end? At 26? Um, OK...
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RudeBoy
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White is incredibly agile for a big bloke and has had a pretty good season. He is best played up the ground on a wing imo, and should be retained.
As for Cloke, I still think his best footy is behind him, and while he is still capable of playing some good games, now is the time to trade him, allowing us to build our future forward line around Cox, Moore, Fasolo, Elliott, Crocker and possibly Josh Daicos.
Reid is just coming into his prime, and should be there for another 5 years. Hopefully we can recruit his younger brother as well, and use him alongside Cox and Moore. |
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AN_Inkling
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Wow! Not a single mention of Sinclair  People are finally coming around 
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simon tonna
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all forwards should be on notice after last night.
lol
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| Raw Hammer wrote: | | Reid is nearing the end? At 26? Um, OK... |
He's already 27. Don't misunderstand me - I don't think any of them is finished - far from it - rather, I'm commenting on the apparent lack of players capable of replacing them for the purpose of building a next top 4 team. If we're 3 years away, what can we expect them to be able to contribute at that time? |
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The Average Tourist
Joined: 08 Apr 2010
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Clearly time for Tooves, The Caff, maybe the Sack and Goodyear
then Witts for the right price,
Swanny up to him
Gault we have tried and tried hard but no it is time
Do we have to promote Cox or can he stay as a Rookie for another year, Smith should be able to stay as a Rookie for another year
Famous last words but might be a quiet year just try and get a healthy small forward Swan, Elliot, Fas and Broomy
plus a fit half backline
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Magpie Jack
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I'd go after tall forwards and tall backs. No more midfielders.
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stui magpie 
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Joined: 03 May 2005
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Rookie list Hartley, again. He's done well as a top up player at Essendon.
Get Daics and Brown jrs in the draft and beg. borrow, steal or whatever else it takes to get a young KP forward.
FWIW, I'd keep White.
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Presti35 
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Joined: 05 Oct 2001
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BazBoy
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There will be player's moved on and other's retained
Any idea's who will leave and who will have trade
currency
And what type a player(one's who can kick of course
are around and out of contract (not 30yr old)
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Presti35
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A lot of very similar threads going around lately.
But Here I go again....
| Quote: | STAYS:
1 Alex Fasolo (Named New VC)
2 Jordan De Goey
4 Brodie Grundy
5 Jamie Elliott
6 Tyson Goldsack
7 Adam Treloar
8 Tom Langdon
9 Jesse White
10 Scott Pendlebury (Remain C)
12 Matthew Scharenberg (Change Jumper Number)
13 Taylor Adams (Remain VC)
14 James Aish
17 Jonathon Marsh
18 Travis Varcoe (Named New VC)
19 Levi Greenwood
20 Ben Reid
21 Tom Phillips
22 Steele Sidebottom (Remain VC)
25 Jack Crisp
27 Matthew Goodyear (Close Call)
28 Ben Sinclair
29 Tim Broomhead
30 Darcy Moore
31 Jackson Ramsay
33 Rupert Wills
35 Brayden Sier (Change Jumper Number)
37 Brayden Maynard
38 Jeremy Howe
39 Ben Crocker (Change Jumper Number)
45 Jack Frost
Possibly Delist & Rookie Draft: (Maybe keep/delist one).
3 Brent Macaffer (Removed from VC)
34 Alan Toovey (Is a F.A.)
Possibly Trade:
15 Jarrod Witts
32 Travis Cloke
26 Marley Williams
43 Adam Oxley
Possibly Retire:
36 Dane Swan (A lost could depend on this decision. (Keeping Toovey, MacAffer, etc).
Free Agents Who May Look Elsewhere:
11 Jarryd Blair
16 Nathan Brown (Would prefer to keep) (Remove From VC)
Possible Rookie List Upgrades: (Max 2 At This Stage. All Retained Players However).
23 Lachlan Keeffe
24 Josh Thomas
40 Josh Smith
46 Mason Cox
Delisted Rookies:
41 Tim Golds
44 Corey Gault
Retained Rookies:
47 Darrean Wyatt |
Who is available:
http://magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?t=79861
http://magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?t=79860
Again there are many threads in the other forum about players from other clubs: http://magpies.net/nick/bb/viewforum.php?f=37
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Bob Sugar
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Broomhead needs to break into the 22 by seasons end.
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GoWoodsmen
Joined: 18 Apr 2005
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Presti35, I reckon you've almost nailed it in one go. I wouldn't be shocked if Tooves retires. Caff may also retire, or just remain on the VFL list. Swanny will depend on the medicos. I dare say Witts is gone - if they can find a way.
Only one I'm puzzled on is Blair. Would he be guaranteed a spot elsewhere? He's had some really good games but plenty of quiet ones and he's not your Eddie Betts style crumber. I think he'll sit tight knowing he's on a good thing.
I haven't seen anything of Sier or enough of Goodyear to comment on them. Josh Smith has to be back.
Could Frost be in any trouble? Skills seem to have gone backwards. Seems to have become a depth player. Weird, I thought he was going to lead our backline!
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