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Member 7167 Leo

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:56 pm
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The fact is that if they cannot play the machines at one venue then they will find another. For those of us that are addicted gamblers the only solution is take measure and get help. It is certainly not an easy road and in many cases the gambling is a result of other things going on in peoples lives.

I hate poker machines and simply do not play them. Many years ago I visited a school mate in Sydney and went with him to the local club for a few beers. He spent the evening pushing a massive amount of money through the machines. This is certainly not what I call having a good time.

Irrespective of weather Collingwood or some other person / organisation owns the machines the result will be the same. At least if it goes to Collingwood it can help fund some of their charitable and community activities.

Personally I would rather see poker machines removed from our society. Even then the most extreme addicts will just find another way to lose their money.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:07 pm
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mattys123 wrote:
You've all missed the bigger story here.

The glasshouse is a money pit, it's sucking us dry already.

Pert has admitted that the Glasshouse is losing money, thus trying to make this deal with the City council to get some cash into the joint.

That's the real story here, that that glasshouse, something that wasn't needed, is having a financial strain on the club already.


God knows whats going on down there ?

All I know is there is a massive facility down there under Collingwood's control yet members have next to zero access to it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:11 pm
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mattys123 wrote:
You've all missed the bigger story here.

The glasshouse is a money pit, it's sucking us dry already.

Pert has admitted that the Glasshouse is losing money, thus trying to make this deal with the City council to get some cash into the joint.

That's the real story here, that that glasshouse, something that wasn't needed, is having a financial strain on the club already.

very good point

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:44 pm
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We need to concentrate on saving the whales and world peace first.
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Member 7167 Leo

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:04 pm
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Lets be honest, the Glasshouse has little to offer and the Pies supporters have reacted accordingly. It feels like a commercial space. End of story. If they want this area to substitute for our social clubs it needs to be social. It feels as homely and inviting as a Hume Highway hotel room.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:06 pm
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Bob Sugar wrote:
We need to concentrate on saving the whales and world peace first.

I'm with you Bob ....Lets replace the United Nations with the Collingwood Football Club.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:24 pm
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I suspect that the days of playing VFL at Vic Park may well be over soon.
The Club will make more money at the Glasshouse with the VFL playing there.
This would be heart breaking.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:30 pm
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thompsoc wrote:
I suspect that the days of playing VFL at Vic Park may well be over soon.
The Club will make more money at the Glasshouse with the VFL playing there.
This would be heart breaking.

The club really isn't happy with the local council too and the way they are letting the Vic Park playing field in particular fall apart.

Last week it really was a poor surface for professional footballers to play on.

I reckon we might phase it out over time, with maybe down to 1-2 games only at Vic Park in a few years.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:43 pm
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watt price tully wrote:
thompsoc wrote:
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I don't give a stuff where our money comes from so long as it is legal.
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It's your opinion & your welcome to it.

I believe we ought not be making money on the exploitation & misfortune of others. You do.

Each to their own.


Should places not sell alcohol because a minority have issues with it?

I was raised in NSW on the border and the local golf club was basically funded by Victorians coming up by the bus load to play pokies when they were illegal in Victoria.

I also remember one particular woman who's husband had the Finley RSL club ban her as she would go there on pension day and put the lot through. It worked until he became unwell and went to hospital and then she was back.

Las Vegas wouldn't exist without casinos.

I'm not a major fan of pokies or gambling in general, but I have a bit every now and then.

Removing the pokies won't cure the ills of the people who are addicted to them, it'll just manifest itself in other ways unless the root cause gets addressed. The Pokies are just an outlet. Address the illness not the symptoms.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:12 pm
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mattys123 wrote:
You've all missed the bigger story here.

The glasshouse is a money pit, it's sucking us dry already.

Pert has admitted that the Glasshouse is losing money, thus trying to make this deal with the City council to get some cash into the joint.

That's the real story here, that that glasshouse, something that wasn't needed, is having a financial strain on the club already.


So it would seem...surely they need to look at the management down there, seems like no one has a kind word for it

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:36 pm
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watt price tully wrote:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/collingwood/collingwood-has-applied-for-more-pokies-days-after-saying-to-wanted-to-be-pokiesfree/news-story/8f551f2ea95201a7ae077c5e340fafa7

WTF?

Am I the only one thinking of the part played by the Collingwood Tote in the development of the Club?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:11 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
watt price tully wrote:
thompsoc wrote:
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I don't give a stuff where our money comes from so long as it is legal.
.......


It's your opinion & your welcome to it.

I believe we ought not be making money on the exploitation & misfortune of others. You do.

Each to their own.


Should places not sell alcohol because a minority have issues with it?

I was raised in NSW on the border and the local golf club was basically funded by Victorians coming up by the bus load to play pokies when they were illegal in Victoria.

I also remember one particular woman who's husband had the Finley RSL club ban her as she would go there on pension day and put the lot through. It worked until he became unwell and went to hospital and then she was back.

Las Vegas wouldn't exist without casinos.

I'm not a major fan of pokies or gambling in general, but I have a bit every now and then.

Removing the pokies won't cure the ills of the people who are addicted to them, it'll just manifest itself in other ways unless the root cause gets addressed. The Pokies are just an outlet. Address the illness not the symptoms.

I grew up in Echuca and where did you grow up .... Toc!!!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:19 pm
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As long as they're legal I can't see what the problem is.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:51 pm
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Can someone explain why pokies are so evil but sports betting is not? I don't know of any pokie venues that give you credit to play the pokies but bookies give credit for people to lose what they don't have...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:08 am
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thompsoc wrote:
stui magpie wrote:
watt price tully wrote:
thompsoc wrote:
.........
I don't give a stuff where our money comes from so long as it is legal.
.......


It's your opinion & your welcome to it.

I believe we ought not be making money on the exploitation & misfortune of others. You do.

Each to their own.


Should places not sell alcohol because a minority have issues with it?

I was raised in NSW on the border and the local golf club was basically funded by Victorians coming up by the bus load to play pokies when they were illegal in Victoria.

I also remember one particular woman who's husband had the Finley RSL club ban her as she would go there on pension day and put the lot through. It worked until he became unwell and went to hospital and then she was back.

Las Vegas wouldn't exist without casinos.

I'm not a major fan of pokies or gambling in general, but I have a bit every now and then.

Removing the pokies won't cure the ills of the people who are addicted to them, it'll just manifest itself in other ways unless the root cause gets addressed. The Pokies are just an outlet. Address the illness not the symptoms.

I grew up in Echuca and where did you grow up .... Toc!!!!!


yep, Toc. Went to Finley High, home of those great minds such as brownless and Crawford.

Also a few smarter ones like Bernard Toohey, David Murphy and Leon Higgins

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