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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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I've been harking on about this for a few years now, but it's now reached crisis point. We simply do not have a single decent ruckman on our list. Until we recruit from somewhere a ruckman who can actually give us first use of the ball at ball ups then we are destined for mediocrity or worse. At present Grundy is our best ruckman, but he is really more of a ruck rover as he gets beaten at hitouts virtually every week. Witts has not improved in 3 years and Cox will need another 2 years to learn how to play the game.
Back in 2009 MM finally relented and we recruited Jolly. The result was a Premiership. Right now, I think we are similarly placed. For all our apparent weaknesses in defence, midfield and up forward, once we have Ramsay, Scharenberg, Moore, Adams, Fasolo, Keeffe and (maybe) Swan back next year, we should have all bases covered....except the ruck. |
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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A good team starts from the ruck. _________________ we don't eat our own at collingwood we just allow them to foul our nest. |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Bendigo
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Agree that it's an issue but I think that boat sailed trade period 2015. Think with another season into Grundy and Witts we'll be fine. Neither will be at what you'd expect to be their peak but we should get vast improvement in their performances 2017 and beyond. Becomes an option should either of Grundy or Witts be on the move at the end of the season. |
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Woods Of Ypres
Joined: 27 May 2003 Location: Yugoslavia
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agreed but who is available? |
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3rd degree
Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Location: John Wren's tote
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Woods Of Ypres wrote: | agreed but who is available? |
Is Seaby still fit? _________________ " Ohhh Banksy and out comes the Note Book".
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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jackcass wrote: | Agree that it's an issue but I think that boat sailed trade period 2015. Think with another season into Grundy and Witts we'll be fine. Neither will be at what you'd expect to be their peak but we should get vast improvement in their performances 2017 and beyond. Becomes an option should either of Grundy or Witts be on the move at the end of the season. |
The Cats may win the flag this year with Smith as their first ruck. I saw him beat Goldstein last week. They got him for next to nothing from GWS. |
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3rd degree
Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Location: John Wren's tote
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He came from the Mould Coast Sons. _________________ " Ohhh Banksy and out comes the Note Book".
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3rd degree
Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Location: John Wren's tote
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RudeBoy wrote: | jackcass wrote: | Agree that it's an issue but I think that boat sailed trade period 2015. Think with another season into Grundy and Witts we'll be fine. Neither will be at what you'd expect to be their peak but we should get vast improvement in their performances 2017 and beyond. Becomes an option should either of Grundy or Witts be on the move at the end of the season. |
The Cats may win the flag this year with Smith as their first ruck. I saw him beat Goldstein last week. They got him for next to nothing from GWS. |
He came from the Mould Coast Sons. _________________ " Ohhh Banksy and out comes the Note Book".
www.facebook/the hybernators |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Bendigo
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Yep, he's been good, not great but good. Funnily enough both Witts (preseason) and Grundy (round 9) have given him a touch up this year. And he's 26, should be in his prime as a ruckman.
We put all our eggs into the Grundy and Witts basket and spent the house on Treloar and Aish.
It is what it is.
PS: If they'd gotten Nicholls from GCS instead of Smith they'd be a lot closer to a flag.
Last edited by jackcass on Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:06 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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mattys123
Joined: 07 Jul 2009 Location: Narre Warren, VIC
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thompsoc wrote: | A good team starts from the ruck. |
Hawthorn says hi.
3 flags without a decent ruckman at all.
Port are on a winning streak simply because they dropped their one capable ruckman (Lobbe) and replaced him with a CHB (Trengove).
Ruckman are so overrated.
A good one maybe improves you 5%, maybe, but unless you have an absolute elite one you're better off playing a battler or a kid and just having more runners.
We have a ruckman, his name is Brodie Grundy, we have good back up in Mason Cox, and a VFL player in case either gets injured in Jarrod Witts.
A ruckman is the absolute least of our problems, by a fricking mile.
Last edited by mattys123 on Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:08 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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And the Brisbane lions from 2003 says hi
And Monkey and Jolly says hi
And Mark Lee and jack dyer says hi
Polly farmer says hi.
Bob Johnson says hi
And the list goes on and on and on thru the ages from ruckman
who have helped Clubs win flags.
Go watch Keating smash Josh Fraser again and again in the ruck.
See how he smashed the ball forward for his midfielders to run onto. _________________ we don't eat our own at collingwood we just allow them to foul our nest. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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McEvoy and Hale say Hi
They may not be great but they have performed well in finals. |
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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Also get a Ruck Coach _________________ I am Da Man |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Bendigo
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Dave The Man wrote: | Also get a Ruck Coach |
Because we know that Rendell and Rocca aren't doing a good job.... oh wait a minute, no we don't! |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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Witts will be a damn good ruckman and Grundy will be a damn good follower.
Patience grasshopper. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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