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Daniel 
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| Joke of a thread, we have won every single game (barring when he got injured) Adams played in a Shaw like role this year. |
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piedys 
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| RudeBoy wrote: | We should never have traded Phil Carman.  |
Not like his absence cost us the premierships in 1979 or 1981. 
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Dave The Man 
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Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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| piedys wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | Heath Shaw would have exploded by now playing in such an inept team with such an inept coaching panel
There's no way he'd have coped... |
Yep, if you thought he went off his tree most weeks at what were the remnants of the 2010-2011 backlines, imagine what he'd be spraying at Frost, Sinclair, Marsh, Williams and Maynard et al, who excel at hitting the opposition on the chest with the pill, lace-out.
It's just a zoo down there, minus Maxwell. |
Our Backline been Useless ever since Maxwell went down with the Career Ending Injury
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thompsoc
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| Redlight wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | we traded a proven A grader and a defense organizer in Heater.
Plus we part paid for a few years of his salary.
AA last year and most likely this year.
Probably has another 2 or 3 years left in him
Long enough for a GWS flag
We got a player who is yet to be rated as an A grader.
He has some potential but how much I don't know.
At the moment GWS are miles ahead in this trade. |
"If I stayed at Collingwood I'm pretty confident I would have played out the two years remaining on my contract and that would have been it,"
Heath Shaw |
Says a huge amount about what he thought about the coach.
Heater is a competitive beast, so put him in a side with belief and he is there.
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Doc63
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We should have traded Buckley for Leon Cameron.
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stui magpie 
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| thompsoc wrote: | | neil wrote: | | Shaw is only playing disciplined football now because he was sacked for undisciplined football |
It is posts like this that really gets under my skin.
Bet you didn't say that when he blocked the Goal in 2010.
A grader at Collingwood and a A grader at GWS |
I have a framed signed 3 pic photo of that in my lounge room above the TV.
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Harvey
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| Obviously if we could've kept Shaw and traded our pick 10 (Freeman) instead for Adams that would have been the best scenario. But given where we are in our premiership window Adams will serve us much better than Shaw considering his prime will be when we're out of the finals |
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piedys
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| Doc63 wrote: | | We should have traded Buckley for Leon Cameron. |
And they would STILL have found a way to screw us for another 1st rounder in the process...
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Dave The Man
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Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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| Harvey wrote: | | Obviously if we could've kept Shaw and traded our pick 10 (Freeman) instead for Adams that would have been the best scenario. But given where we are in our premiership window Adams will serve us much better than Shaw considering his prime will be when we're out of the finals |
What Premiership Window? We are in the Wooden Spoon Window at the Moment
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Magpie Jack
Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Location: Bribie Island, on the Collingwood Coast
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Heater has managed something that Eddie hasn't ... he's sacked Bucks.
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thompsoc
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| stui magpie wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | | neil wrote: | | Shaw is only playing disciplined football now because he was sacked for undisciplined football |
It is posts like this that really gets under my skin.
Bet you didn't say that when he blocked the Goal in 2010.
A grader at Collingwood and a A grader at GWS |
I have a framed signed 3 pic photo of that in my lounge room above the TV. |
That and the first daicos goal in the 1990 gf are my favourite moments with collingwood.
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piedys
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| Harvey wrote: | | Obviously if we could've kept Shaw and traded our pick 10 (Freeman) instead for Adams that would have been the best scenario. |
But we would never have known who genius Hine was looking at?
We would have said: that inept decision cost us Cripps [which it did].
1 Tom Boyd Greater Western Sydney Eastern U18
2 Joshua Kelly Greater Western Sydney Sandringham U18
3 Jack Billings St Kilda Oakleigh U18
4 Marcus Bontempelli Western Bulldogs Northern U18
5 Kade Kolodjashnij Gold Coast Launceston
6 Matthew Scharenberg Collingwood Glenelg
7 James Aish Brisbane Lions Norwood
8 Luke McDonald North Melbourne Werribee
9 Christian Salem Melbourne Sandringham U18
10 Nathan Freeman Collingwood Sandringham U18
11 Dom Sheed West Coast Subiaco
12 Ben Lennon Richmond Northern U18
13 Patrick Cripps Carlton East Fremantle
14 Cam McCarthy Greater Western Sydney South Fremantle
| Harvey wrote: | | But given where we are in our premiership window Adams will serve us much better than Shaw considering his prime will be when we're out of the finals |
where we are in our premiership window?!
Mate were nudging midday in our rock-bottom window!
And pretty sure we've been out of the finals for some seasons... 
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Johnno75
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I think we have done well. Heater's time was up when he blew a gasket in that final vs Port in 2013. If we didn't trade him we wouldn't have got Taylor Adams if we just let him finish his contract. We would have left us for much less. We traded him for the highest possible currency.
Cloke might well be the example of what can/might happen if we let it drag on.
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Piesnchess
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FWIW Heater will always be a Pie at heart, at the end of their playing and or coachind days, they all come back too the Pies eventually, look at peter moore
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piedys
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | FWIW Heater will always be a Pie at heart, at the end of their playing and or coachind days, they all come back too the Pies eventually, look at peter moore |
I often wonder if Peter Moore had stayed at Collingwood post 1982, would we have still chased Cloke [and Raines] for 1983 to ruck for us?
And if so, would we have advanced through to 2010 premiership without Travis in his prime, let alone the 2011 grand final?
A very interesting hypothetical question eh?
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