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| Dave The Man wrote: | | think positive wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | Doing that to a baby IMO is dangerous and fkn stupid.
I prefer an osteopath to a physiotherapist, but Chiropractors I don't have a lot of time for. I got made to go to one when I fkd my knee as a 15 year old. Bastard hurt worse than the injury and did no good. |
Did you watch the Video?
He did a great job fixing the Poor Kids Cholic |
Thing is with colic, it's usually just a bit of wind stuck in a kink somewhere (a burp!). No one can diagnose chronic colic in a baby that young, so the old rub the back til the burp comes up should be sufficient.
I agree with what others have said, no way would I let anyone manipulate a new born baby. Their ligaments and joints are still forming and hardening,you could easily cripple them for life. Usually colic is easily fixed, it's a normal part of a babies life. Some babies are more suspetible than others. And yes some do have chronic colic, but that baby is too young to diagnose it as such.
https://www.babydoc.com.au/faq/colic-bore-your-baby-to-sleep/
I was lucky, my babies were really good, they hardly ever cried. For any reason. (Yep I was a clingy mum, I held them 'too much' apparently! No regrets! |
My Mum said when I was a Baby I had colic and it lasted for Months |
Did she say if there was a medical reason?
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| think positive wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | think positive wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | Doing that to a baby IMO is dangerous and fkn stupid.
I prefer an osteopath to a physiotherapist, but Chiropractors I don't have a lot of time for. I got made to go to one when I fkd my knee as a 15 year old. Bastard hurt worse than the injury and did no good. |
Did you watch the Video?
He did a great job fixing the Poor Kids Cholic |
Thing is with colic, it's usually just a bit of wind stuck in a kink somewhere (a burp!). No one can diagnose chronic colic in a baby that young, so the old rub the back til the burp comes up should be sufficient.
I agree with what others have said, no way would I let anyone manipulate a new born baby. Their ligaments and joints are still forming and hardening,you could easily cripple them for life. Usually colic is easily fixed, it's a normal part of a babies life. Some babies are more suspetible than others. And yes some do have chronic colic, but that baby is too young to diagnose it as such.
https://www.babydoc.com.au/faq/colic-bore-your-baby-to-sleep/
I was lucky, my babies were really good, they hardly ever cried. For any reason. (Yep I was a clingy mum, I held them 'too much' apparently! No regrets! |
My Mum said when I was a Baby I had colic and it lasted for Months |
Did she say if there was a medical reason? |
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Said she went to the Doctors and they could not do anything but I double Check with her again
She Said I just Screamed for those Months and barley stopped
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This shows the Media's Double Standards:
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The Daily Mail barely even read the stuff they publish before it goes up online. Actually, they quite often don't even write it (they're notorious plagiarists). But the knee-jerk stupidity of rubbish tabloids has nothing whatsoever to do with the consensus of scientists and medical specialists, which is firmly against chiropractic.
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| David wrote: | | The Daily Mail barely even read the stuff they publish before it goes up online. Actually, they quite often don't even write it (they're notorious plagiarists). But the knee-jerk stupidity of rubbish tabloids has nothing whatsoever to do with the consensus of scientists and medical specialists, which is firmly against chiropractic. |
Then IF so Bad for you and only makes you worse. Then why people go there and why is it Legal 
People said Marijuana was bad for you but hey it's legal now for Medical Reasons.
Things can Change and I can tell you from Personal Experience it's not as Stupid as you make it sound
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I didn't mean to offend you, Dave. I just find all this "wake up, sheeple!" stuff from the alternative-medicine/quantum-woo/anti-illuminati crowd to be a bit silly. Argue the science of chiropractic and call out media hypocrisy on the issue if you like, but pointing to the Daily Mail's reportage as an example of flaws in the 'mainstream narrative' is barking up the wrong tree.
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| David wrote: | | I didn't mean to offend you, Dave. I just find all this "wake up, sheeple!" stuff from the alternative-medicine/quantum-woo/anti-illuminati crowd to be a bit silly. Argue the science of chiropractic and call out media hypocrisy on the issue if you like, but pointing to the Daily Mail's reportage as an example of flaws in the 'mainstream narrative' is barking up the wrong tree. |
I could say you are very "Singled Minded" to just write it off because GP's and some Scientists have said it was Crap. I know big Companies like the Australian Ballet use Ian. You just had to watch the Video's that where up how much Difference it made in People's Lives.
Why would a Article even come up in the 1st Place saying he works Miracles in the 1st Place Then?
I would love to know Your Reasons why you think it's all Crap?
I guess you think Massage is Crap as well?
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Chiropracty is different to massage, physio and osteopathy.
I've tried all 4 and all I got from the first was pain and no positive result. If it works for you, great, but I wouldn't let anyone do that cracking stuff to my grandson, no chance.
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| stui magpie wrote: | Chiropracty is different to massage, physio and osteopathy.
I've tried all 4 and all I got from the first was pain and no positive result. If it works for you, great, but I wouldn't let anyone do that cracking stuff to my grandson, no chance. |
Well I can understand people not wanting there Children go to Chrio's but it still does not mean it does NOT work.
My Sister is like you who is against it and we won't force her to to do it but Me and My Mum who go to Chiro think it would make a Huge Difference.
It be like ASMR It can work on People but not everyone and Chrio might not be able to fix everyone.
Though I been to one's that are Very Experienced and Work for Big Organsation's. So it's not just a Random Chiro. My Mum Tried other Chiro at the Same Place and She did find that some did NOT do a very good job but they only been in the Business for 5 Years Max and There was a Lady who Just Started - My Mum did not want anything of her because she did not want to be a Gunie Pig for a Newbie.
So lot has to do to find the Right One - So I can understand people who have tried and NOT worked not being Huge Fans of it.
I can also say Chiro is most likely not People's 1st Choice to try and fix there problems
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| Dave The Man wrote: | I could say you are very "Singled Minded" to just write it off because GP's and some Scientists have said it was Crap. I know big Companies like the Australian Ballet use Ian. You just had to watch the Video's that where up how much Difference it made in People's Lives.
Why would a Article even come up in the 1st Place saying he works Miracles in the 1st Place Then?
I would love to know Your Reasons why you think it's all Crap?
I guess you think Massage is Crap as well? |
To the latter question, of course not! The reason I think chiro is pseudoscience is that it's based on an outdated understanding of how the body works that is, one not backed by modern science. Some practices performed by chiropractors may well be beneficial (i.e. the ones also performed by osteopaths), but I struggle to see the point of going to an alternative health provider for that when an osteo could do the same without any of the dodgy stuff.
Again, I don't want to diminish your experiences. I have a close friend who is into all kinds of alternative therapies homeopathy, reiki, tarot cards, you name it. She swears that she had a transcendent experience with reiki, and I don't want to make her feel bad for that; I just quietly think it's rubbish and will remain sceptical until I can see some kind of scientific proof that it actually does anything.
Anyway, for better or for worse we live in a society where these practices are legal and available, so it's your right to go and if you find it beneficial, that's great. But I think it should be an option for consenting adults only, not babies who get no say in it and could, in some circumstances, end up disabled for life.
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| David wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | I could say you are very "Singled Minded" to just write it off because GP's and some Scientists have said it was Crap. I know big Companies like the Australian Ballet use Ian. You just had to watch the Video's that where up how much Difference it made in People's Lives.
Why would a Article even come up in the 1st Place saying he works Miracles in the 1st Place Then?
I would love to know Your Reasons why you think it's all Crap?
I guess you think Massage is Crap as well? |
To the latter question, of course not! The reason I think chiro is pseudoscience is that it's based on an outdated understanding of how the body works that is, one not backed by modern science. Some practices performed by chiropractors may well be beneficial (i.e. the ones also performed by osteopaths), but I struggle to see the point of going to an alternative health provider for that when an osteo could do the same without any of the dodgy stuff.
Again, I don't want to diminish your experiences. I have a close friend who is into all kinds of alternative therapies homeopathy, reiki, tarot cards, you name it. She swears that she had a transcendent experience with reiki, and I don't want to make her feel bad for that; I just quietly think it's rubbish and will remain sceptical until I can see some kind of scientific proof that it actually does anything. |
You are a Skeptic. Old Ways of Thinking can sometime be the Right Way. I guess you don't agree with Eastern Medical Stuff,
Lot of those Alternative things you Mentioned there All of them I have very High Doubts about them.
But I don't see Chiro as Alternative Therpy because lot of people go there, Big Companies can use them.
Not Saying you do it but I hate people who come out and Abused Ian and Other Chiro's because of Lack of Understanding
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Spot On Morrigu. You have to find a GOOD Chiro because as you say.
Get a Bad One and People can have Bad Experiences with them and I guess after a Bad Experience it be very hard IF at all to get there Trust Back.
You have to do some Research and Ask Around to find a Good Chiro to get the Best Experience Possible.
Agree GP's Hate it as that means that Patient's would not go to them as much and Don't get the Kick Back from the Pharmical Companies.
As People with Chronic Pain could get Relief without Medicine,
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| Dave The Man wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | Chiropracty is different to massage, physio and osteopathy.
I've tried all 4 and all I got from the first was pain and no positive result. If it works for you, great, but I wouldn't let anyone do that cracking stuff to my grandson, no chance. |
Well I can understand people not wanting there Children go to Chrio's but it still does not mean it does NOT work.
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I agree with Stui, I've also used them all, and added myotherapy onto it.
Yes, chiro works - for a day, maybe a week if you're lucky, then you have to go back. Again & again & again.
If you go to someone that fixes the root of the problem, not just the quick fix, you don't need to keep going back. My myotherapist did just that, I was sure I needed an operation to fix my back as the pain was so severe. Pretty much after 2 visits I was brand new. Well, my back was brand new
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