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watt price tully 
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| think positive wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: |
I listened to this last week or so on Radio National's "Background Briefing" programme:
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/2016-04-24/7346284
Having said that I've had wonderful back relief without drugs from an osteopath after digging up & transporting (on a far too low wheelbarrow) a clothes line with the concrete slab attached the base back in the late 1980's. He was quite old & was a former osteopath the the Royal New Zealand ballet.
His advice at that time (late 1980's) assisted me a lot in Judo & Jui Jitsu that I was doing then!
He said don't dig up and use a wheelbarrow to transport a washing line with a concrete slab... 
My wife was referred to an osteopath for her hip recently. The GP trusts this guy & he was great. Useful information & he works with all manner of doctors & surgeons. |
yeah im always telling my husband that, but he still makes me do it
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Osteopath was a lot better than GP's or surgeons for low back in my view. Especially those who know their limits and works with so called western medicine medicine.
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| watt price tully wrote: | | think positive wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: |
I listened to this last week or so on Radio National's "Background Briefing" programme:
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/2016-04-24/7346284
Having said that I've had wonderful back relief without drugs from an osteopath after digging up & transporting (on a far too low wheelbarrow) a clothes line with the concrete slab attached the base back in the late 1980's. He was quite old & was a former osteopath the the Royal New Zealand ballet.
His advice at that time (late 1980's) assisted me a lot in Judo & Jui Jitsu that I was doing then!
He said don't dig up and use a wheelbarrow to transport a washing line with a concrete slab...
My wife was referred to an osteopath for her hip recently. The GP trusts this guy & he was great. Useful information & he works with all manner of doctors & surgeons. |
yeah im always telling my husband that, but he still makes me do it
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Osteopath was a lot better than GP's or surgeons for low back in my view. Especially those who know their limits and works with so called western medicine medicine. |
yeah i was lucky, when i fell off my horse and squished a disc when i was about 22, 2 weeks of rest and drugs did nothing, he sent me to a surgeon who said get off the couch! he showed me some stretches, and told me to keep my ABS tight, and he was spot on! (the injury was so bad my legs would go out from under me without warning or scotch!!)
lately ive had a bit of a hammy pull or something in the buttock area: had a sports massage, she said its sciatica. was talking to Pa Marmo last week, he got himself a True Back. he swears by it. mine should arrive tuesday (mothers day pressie!!)
https://www.truebackaustralia.com.au/?gclid=CKyKltHmxswCFQUsvQodqosNjg
i also do a lot of Pilates moves which really helps. apparently im ridiculously flexible for my age!! 
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David
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| think positive wrote: | | David wrote: | | think positive wrote: | | Some good stuff in homeopathy, why are you so dismissive of either? Didn't know you had a doctors degree |
If you read up on the 'science' of homeopathy I dare say you will be too. A lot of people have a vague sense that it's a 'harmless' and 'natural' alternative to mainstream medicine, but have no idea what the actual theory is behind it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy |
when i was about 22 i was sick for months on end, the kind that just knocks you plat for no reason. i saw doctor after doctor, i was "diagnosed" with everything from cold, flu, depression, i had blood tests, antibiotics, you name it. nothing worked, finally a different doc said it may be chronic fatigue, did bloods and the pointers were all there. he sent me to a naturopath. the guy just gave me a basic diet, cut out sugar, white processed foods, rest even if not sleeping, and a basic herbal tonic, nothing expensive or flash. i had my doubts. within three days i felt better than i had in a year, 2 weeks later i was back to my normal self.
i still follow his diet advice all these years later! i will only eat white bread if its something special!! i dont eat white rice, potatoes (although i will occasionally eat my roast potatoes! and the odd chip). i never add sugar to anything.
i would never advocate skipping conventional medicine when it comes to things like cancer, but there is science in eating to keep your body alkaline, and the goodness of things like apple cider vinegar. there is a lot of arguing about whether chemo kills or cures right now. so easy to take advantage of someones vulnerability when they have a life threatening disease. this helps no one. which is why when i was so lethargic last year i sought the help of a conventional doctor with a side in homeopathic, or alternate, medicine
just because you believe in one, doesn't mean the other is total baloney. i have an open mind, as i do with chiropractors. i cant ever imagine going to one, but i wont turn around and call it complete quackery, because i have no idea if it is. and i dont think its helpful to tell some one who finds their services helps them personally that they are seeing a quack! i might suggest (as i did) seeing an osteo or a physio instead. cheers |
Of course anyone advocating a healthy diet and rest is pushing you in the right direction, but if they gave you a prescription for homeopathic remedies they were taking you for a ride. May as well have given you a cup of tap water because that's literally all it is, minus the expensive price tag.
I have an open mind too, and there are plenty of things I don't understand, but I'm not going to believe something if all the evidence suggests it's baloney.
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any thoughts to the GPs with the naturopathic qualifications? or you just dismiss them as quacks too? i am actually quite surprised on your take on this to be honest.
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| I just have this awful mental image of the guy DTM mentions in the OP going through a whole pile of babies, snapping them in half, before he finally works out how much you can manipulate their delicate little spines without doing permanent damage. Like the old joke about the munitions-tester at the end of the production line, hitting each bomb with a hammer ("That one works .... that one works ....") |
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| partypie wrote: | | The radiologist I mentioned was top of his year in medicine at Melbourne Uni and one of the best in the business. Many years of study and hard slog. I'd take his word any day Dave.. |
When I was a Kid Trying to get my Autism Dignosed I went to plenty of top Doctors that said they had no idea. It took to I was 14 when I finally got Dignosed
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Ian is Far From Rogue Chiro.
She has no Idea and just Listens to The Masses without Studies
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When I go to Chiro I never hear any Noise when he does the Correction.
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | I just have this awful mental image of the guy DTM mentions in the OP going through a whole pile of babies, snapping them in half, before he finally works out how much you can manipulate their delicate little spines without doing permanent damage. Like the old joke about the munitions-tester at the end of the production line, hitting each bomb with a hammer ("That one works .... that one works ....") |
I laughed out loud at that!
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stui magpie 
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| think positive wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | | I just have this awful mental image of the guy DTM mentions in the OP going through a whole pile of babies, snapping them in half, before he finally works out how much you can manipulate their delicate little spines without doing permanent damage. Like the old joke about the munitions-tester at the end of the production line, hitting each bomb with a hammer ("That one works .... that one works ....") |
I laughed out loud at that! |
So did I. It helps if you visualise the Chrio with a German accent as he goes Crack, Schiess, whoops (tosses dead baby into bin ) NEXT
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| Dave The Man wrote: | | partypie wrote: | | The radiologist I mentioned was top of his year in medicine at Melbourne Uni and one of the best in the business. Many years of study and hard slog. I'd take his word any day Dave.. |
When I was a Kid Trying to get my Autism Dignosed I went to plenty of top Doctors that said they had no idea. It took to I was 14 when I finally got Dignosed |
Sorry to hear that Dave, no wonder you are sceptical about the medical profession. Hopefully they are much better at diagnosing autism these days. There seems to be a lot more awareness and understanding these days. That said, it doesn't automatically follow that all medical professionals are useless! |
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| There's a fair degree of radical idiocy amongst the medical profession, like most professions. I'm a bit older than many of you but I can still remember how appalled my Mum was when she took me to a leading asthma-specialist only to be told that my asthma was "attention-seeking behaviour" that would be "resolved by a good smack, now and again". It's funny how the medical profession's view of that seemed to change almost instantly as soon as drugs were developed that could manage asthma to some extent. |
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | There's a fair degree of radical idiocy amongst the medical profession, like most professions. I'm a bit older than many of you but I can still remember how appalled my Mum was when she took me to a leading asthma-specialist only to be told that my asthma was "attention-seeking behaviour" that would be "resolved by a good smack, now and again". It's funny how the medical profession's view of that seemed to change almost instantly as soon as drugs were developed that could manage asthma to some extent. |
That is because they can make money off it
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| think positive wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | Doing that to a baby IMO is dangerous and fkn stupid.
I prefer an osteopath to a physiotherapist, but Chiropractors I don't have a lot of time for. I got made to go to one when I fkd my knee as a 15 year old. Bastard hurt worse than the injury and did no good. |
Did you watch the Video?
He did a great job fixing the Poor Kids Cholic |
Thing is with colic, it's usually just a bit of wind stuck in a kink somewhere (a burp!). No one can diagnose chronic colic in a baby that young, so the old rub the back til the burp comes up should be sufficient.
I agree with what others have said, no way would I let anyone manipulate a new born baby. Their ligaments and joints are still forming and hardening,you could easily cripple them for life. Usually colic is easily fixed, it's a normal part of a babies life. Some babies are more suspetible than others. And yes some do have chronic colic, but that baby is too young to diagnose it as such.
https://www.babydoc.com.au/faq/colic-bore-your-baby-to-sleep/
I was lucky, my babies were really good, they hardly ever cried. For any reason. (Yep I was a clingy mum, I held them 'too much' apparently! No regrets! |
My Mum said when I was a Baby I had colic and it lasted for Months
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