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swoop42 
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Joined: 02 Aug 2008
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | If they were to trade Cloke for Hogan, that would be a very helpful indication that the "contending in 2017" noises are not serious and might save many of us the cost of next year's membership. |
It would be 2018 not 17 when Hogan came on board.  |
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SteveH67
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Location: Canberra, Australia
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| inxs88 wrote: | | Project player?? He has been there since 2011. It's become a THESIS! |
Eddie was spouting all sorts of crap. Witts is huge, wait till see this guy etc etc
Witts hasn't progressed in the last couple of years, unfortunately.
Trade bait!
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Pies4shaw 
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| ^^^ I expect you're right. I actually think Hogan's been pretty ordinary this year and was just responding lazily to something I read on here (this thread/another thread - who knows?) that suggested it might be a good idea to swap Hogan for Cloke. |
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jackcass 
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| inxs88 wrote: | | Project player?? He has been there since 2011. It's become a THESIS! |
Max Gawn has been at the Dees 2 years longer (pick 34 2009 draft)... your point? |
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eddiesmith 
Lets get ready to Rumble
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| Its amazing the different standards some players have, at least some posters have seen some sense but the facts will be ignored... |
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inxs88
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| jackcass wrote: | | inxs88 wrote: | | Project player?? He has been there since 2011. It's become a THESIS! |
Max Gawn has been at the Dees 2 years longer (pick 34 2009 draft)... your point? |
I say potato... you say patato, I say tomato.... you say tomoto.... etc
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| inxs88 wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | | inxs88 wrote: | | Project player?? He has been there since 2011. It's become a THESIS! |
Max Gawn has been at the Dees 2 years longer (pick 34 2009 draft)... your point? |
I say potato... you say patato, I say tomato.... you say tomoto.... etc |
Potato - potato; tomato - tomato.... of course loses a bit in written form, like most of your posts. |
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WarrenerraW
Joined: 18 Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne
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| Witts wanted to stay with us. There was a lot of talk going round that we'd trade or delist him last year but he put his head out and said how much he wanted to remain at the club. At the moment I'm yet to be convinced by him and don't think he offers us a great deal in terms of a ruckman who is capable of a) rucking effectively and b) being a presence up forward and around the ground. How much longer will we persevere with him I wonder? I suspect we'll trade him if Cox develops and takes over and Grundy starts to emerge. Those two will be our set up with Witts left to linger in the vfl. He's back up at the moment and would need to earn his spot back. |
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WarrenerraW
Joined: 18 Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne
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I'd be shocked if we traded Cloke, I really would. But then again, stranger things have happened. Unless all communication breaks down between him and Buck's and the team then I'd imagine that he'd work hard to try and win his spot back.
His contract is on hold I think... I don't know if he requested that or if we are putting it off. I expect that he'll finish his career with us but he needs to get his shit together. From what I hear, he's not enjoying playing footy. Send him on a holiday for a couple of weeks overseas. Let him clear his head and come back refreshed for the second half of the season. He's not going to gain much from playing in a vfl team that's depleted and getting thrashed every week.
He's still our main key power forward. |
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uuuuu..... The LoneSTAR
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I still think Witts can reach greater heights [excuse the pun], to the point where he should challenge Grundy for #1 status. Of course, in my mind Gundy doesn't really tick every box either at the moment & not sure he ever will.
The easiest way Witts could instantly improve would be to play angry. I know many people will tell you that 'angriness' can't be taught. However, I'm sure it can be prescribed!!.... DO IT!!!!!! |
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Jpies
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| WarrenerraW wrote: | | I'd be shocked if we traded Cloke, I really would. But then again, stranger things have happened. |
Strange things do happen... after the 2010 grand final I would have been shocked at the idea of trading Heath Shaw or Harry. Some posters on here still seem to be shocked that we traded them! If the club thinks that Cloke's asking price is too high for his next contract, I'm almost certain they would trade him in an instant. |
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gurugeoff
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | Silly thread, both are required players, and you sure as hell dont give away future monsters like Witts, if the piss and poop got him, hed become a star, and dominate us for years. ! |
I'm reasonably sure Witts will never become a monster to dominate us. If Witts is a project player, its a really long term project, since he has been training with us for ten years, as part of the nsw academy.
by all means, we can keep Witts as a backup ruckman, but you could also draft any number of backup ruckmen like him every year. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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| Witts has given us nothing in the last 4 games. |
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John Wren
"Look after the game. It means so much to so many."
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^ your most astute observation yet. 
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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| jackcass wrote: | | inxs88 wrote: | | Project player?? He has been there since 2011. It's become a THESIS! |
Max Gawn has been at the Dees 2 years longer (pick 34 2009 draft)... your point? |
As usual a distinct lack of patience, especially with bigger players as VFL/AFL history very clearly shows.
However these "perceptive fellow" know it all so their points are always correct, especially to themselves... 
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