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jackcass 
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| John Wren wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: |
Bucks has supported and stood by Cloke for the past 2-3 years when his form has been shithouse.
Cloke has always been overrated and now he's behaving like a big girl and crying to his Daddy over being dropped for poor form. Time to f*ck him off for good. |
that's unfair. he has supported bucks. don't get sucked in. |
I agree JW, think the playing group are solid (well maybe not physically, they're breaking down L-R & centre) behind Bucks. |
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RudeBoy
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| John Wren wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | | Jez07 wrote: | | Cloke needs to accept some responsibility but Buckley has virtually run him into the ground. Gave him no support when he traded out Dawes and the brainiac in the coaching box thought he could get his confidence up by playing him in the ruck this year. |
Bucks has supported and stood by Cloke for the past 2-3 years when his form has been shithouse.
Cloke has always been overrated and now he's behaving like a big girl and crying to his Daddy over being dropped for poor form. Time to f*ck him off for good. |
that's unfair. he has supported bucks. don't get sucked in. |
You're right JW. My comments about Cloke were over the top. In truth, he's simply an aging player sadly out of form. I'm sure he's as frustrated over it as I am. |
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Pies4shaw 
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| Jez07 wrote: | | Cloke is not going to disclose his true feelings to a sports reporter who bailed him up as he walked to his car. God some of you are gulliable. |
Happily, we've got you to tell us what Cloke really feels because you have that special access that professional sports-journalists don't. |
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piedys 
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| Culprit wrote: | If Cloke is fit he will be named this week as the cupboard is bare.  |
I don't think this team can win without him.
The coach made his point by demoting him to the VFL.
Can we get him back in the 22 FFS, and get on with the business of winning games again?
Moving forward...
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John Wren 
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| piedys wrote: | | Culprit wrote: | | If Cloke is fit he will be named this week as the cupboard is bare. |
I don't think this team can win without him.
The coach made his point by demoting him to the VFL.
Can we get him back in the 22 FFS, and get on with the business of winning games again?
Moving forward... |
it's not about making a point. cloke has to work on deficiencies in his game. until he overcomes them he won't be playing afl.
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Pete 70
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This post is brilliant - we have now officially got to the "Only the true messiah denies his existence" point. Brilliant. Say what you want about Bucks in a disrespectful manner, fine. But to suggest he has been anything other than incredibly supportive of Cloke over the last few years is wrong. Watch the tape - every time Slobbo tried to single Cloke out Bucks shut it down. Possibly the players do really respect him. I'm not sure how anyone can be definitive either way. And I'm not sure how you can say where Travis is - is anything other than Travis' responsibility. The ball wasnt kicked to him properly ... ffs.
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Jez07
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Cloke is a victim of a dysfunctional gameplan and a coach. You put him in a WB where they have fast ball movement and transition and have open 50 metre forward lines and Cloke will kick plus 50 goals.
Slow ball movement, poorly skilled movement and opposition defences that are able to flood the forward line make life impossible for any KPF in Collingwood's setup. |
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September Zeros
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| Jez07 wrote: | Cloke is a victim of a dysfunctional gameplan and a coach. You put him in a WB where they have fast ball movement and transition and have open 50 metre forward lines and Cloke will kick plus 50 goals.
Slow ball movement, poorly skilled movement and opposition defences that are able to flood the forward line make life impossible for any KPF in Collingwood's setup. |
In your opinion. 
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
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| September Zeros wrote: | | Jez07 wrote: | Cloke is a victim of a dysfunctional gameplan and a coach. You put him in a WB where they have fast ball movement and transition and have open 50 metre forward lines and Cloke will kick plus 50 goals.
Slow ball movement, poorly skilled movement and opposition defences that are able to flood the forward line make life impossible for any KPF in Collingwood's setup. |
In your opinion. |
What's this WB we're putting Cloke in? Is it an earlier version of a WC? |
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