"Cowards Punch" deaths

partypie · Joined: 01 Oct 2010

The newer drugs are messing with people's brains (not the victims) like the old drugs never did. They are incredibly popular and common sense, logic and ethics fly out the window. Add that to people without decent role models, parental addiction and selfishness, poor diet, youth unemployment, low self esteem etc and you've got trouble.
Any party with a decent youth policy will get my vote

Culprit · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne

A 33 year old man is in police custody over the cowards pinch on the 19 year old.

stui magpie · Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:16 pm

Dangles · Balmey Army Joined: 14 May 2015

On the drive to work this morning I heard Danny Green on SEN talking out about the use of the term king hit and he was very forthright about it.

"The professional boxer has long been an advocate for the campaign against labelling such crimes �king hits� so the perpetrator�s actions are not glorified and copied by others."

http://www.sen.com.au/news/04-16/don-t-glorify-these-cowards-danny-green#9HLT6377gFVq0Ljv.97

Then on the drive home I heard Brent Havey on SEN and he casually used the term king hit and the guys didn't correct him on it. I thought it was a bit odd.

Culprit · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne

The hit that killed the 19 year old was a cowards punch. The 33 year old will no doubt seek protection in the prison system once he is remanded tonight. A few blokes inside will definitely want to show him what a tough bloke he really is.

stui magpie · Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:28 pm

Without knowing anything about that bloke, I have a small level of sympathy for him, stupid as it sounds.

One dumb decision, one wrong call, one young man dead who did nothing wrong and another life (and wife and child by extension) stuffed up.

It's a lesson in the consequences of your actions if nothing else. Too many people want to blame everyone and everything except themself, this guy had a split second of utter stupidity (I'm assuming he doesn't have form) and lots of lives are changed forever and someone is dead. I've done some dumb things over the journey (never coward punched someone) and I can look back and think how fkn lucky I was that I'm still alive and I never killed anyone.

Fkn hard lesson for all involved.

HAL · Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:31 pm

Can you remember any time that he or she've done some dumb things over the journey did it? Oh you can, can you? Because you can't afford it?

Dangles · Balmey Army Joined: 14 May 2015

stui magpie · Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:16 pm

It does take a certain mentality but there's so many things that can contribute to that. he could just be a cockhead, he could be a good bloke under a lot of pressure who did something dumb that had horrible consequences.

Can't tell, doing a bad action doesn't make you a bad person, but just so it's clear I'm not trying in any way to justify what he did. He �$%$ed up, someone's dead and he has to cop the consequences regardless of whether he's a model citizen who had 2 seconds of madness or a total cnut.

There is a hell of a lot of people who wouldn't have done the same thing in the same situation. The vast majority in fact I'd guess.

There's also a number who would've done the same thing if the right combination of factors all happened at the same time and they'd be regretting that moment of madness forever.

Then there's the small minority of douche nozzles who do it for fun and ignore or don't understand the potential consequences.

Dangles · Balmey Army Joined: 14 May 2015

True.

Culprit · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne

Stui, normally I would agree and in saying that the reports say the young man was leaning over to help someone and was cleaned up. I would also suggest the defendant has form as it's stated in the media that during the interview and only gave his name and address and DOB. No other questions were answered.

I have no doubt the defendants lawyer will go the mental issue line along with drugs and alcohol as that's standard practice.

I feel more sorry for William Lee's family as they will cop a lot of crap over what he has done and will no doubt be very upset as well.

Jezza · 2023 PREMIERS! Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Location: Ponsford End

It's a tragic situation all round.

We clearly have a cultural problem in this country and it hasn't been adequately addressed despite widespread discussion in recent years.

stui magpie · Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:41 pm

Skids · Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:05 pm

I think the answer to the OP is; There are now more cowards, you know the ones, pumped up, do a bit a this and that..... watch UFC 197 fourteen times man. AND these cokksukas actually get trained to do damage.

Think about it.... there's more macho clowns around, there's violence via; UFC, games, tv fights, violence highlighted everywhere you look.

This sort of shit was bound to happen and will continue to thrive in this crazy world.

Wokko · Come and take it. Joined: 04 Oct 2005

Martial arts teaches the exact opposite to what you've said. The douchebags wearing tap out shirts and punching people haven't trained a day in their lives. There's less crowd violence at UFC events than there is at soccer or Ice Hockey and the whole 'games/tv/whatever' cause violence thing has been debunked time and time again.

If I was wanting to take a stab in the dark at what is creating this generation of dysfunctional men I'd look at the single parenthood epidemic and the lack of positive male role models in these men's lives. Looking for causes isn't looking for excuses before anyone pulls that old chestnut. These guys aren't macho, they're compensating and blindly reaching for a masculinity they've known or been taught.