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Woods Of Ypres
Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Yugoslavia
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Treloar and Aish I think will be fine.
What concerns me is our lack of overall class and pace
In hindsight we should have gone for youth instead of these duds
Lynch
Russell
Young
Karnezis
White
Now we are paying the price |
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Joined: 05 May 2010
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I think you should analyze what was given up in getting these players. the truth is, very little. Would be surprised if any of these moves inhibited out ability to get a good player to the club.
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Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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Woods Of Ypres
Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Yugoslavia
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| E wrote: | | Woods Of Ypres wrote: | Treloar and Aish I think will be fine.
What concerns me is our lack of overall class and pace
In hindsight we should have gone for youth instead of these duds
Lynch
Russell
Young
Karnezis
White
Now we are paying the price |
I think you should analyze what was given up in getting these players. the truth is, very little. Would be surprised if any of these moves inhibited out ability to get a good player to the club. |
some of these guys were on 400K
surely we could have done better |
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Tezza23
Joined: 16 Mar 2014
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| neil wrote: | DTM
Treloar and Aish are guns
You think we should not have recruited them
Instead we should have picked some gun kids
Can you see the contradiction? |
Treloar looks the goods, but we effectively paid a R7 last year and possibly this year a R5 or R6 pick. In other words Treloar is worth a De Goey and a Moore. can you imagine the uproar if those two were traded for a single player.
Aish may very well end up being a gun, but to say his performances so far have earned him that reputation is simply bewildering. He has yet to receive one brownlow vote |
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jackcass 
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| E wrote: | | Woods Of Ypres wrote: | Treloar and Aish I think will be fine.
What concerns me is our lack of overall class and pace
In hindsight we should have gone for youth instead of these duds
Lynch
Russell
Young
Karnezis
White
Now we are paying the price |
I think you should analyze what was given up in getting these players. the truth is, very little. Would be surprised if any of these moves inhibited out ability to get a good player to the club. |
I'm a strong advocate of always going to the draft rather than trading but I'd agree, none of those listed players cost too much and we were desperately in need of some senior experience to allow the youth time to develop. |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| Some more, some less but what we paid them doesn't really have a lot of relevance to why we got them. Of them, I'd have thought that Patty K was the only 1 considered a long term prospect. Doubt White was ever more than a filler. |
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Flashman
Joined: 11 Aug 2007
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I think they had big hopes for White personally. He was noted for his athleticism and untapped talent and he had a reasonable last year at Sydney and I think the club hoped he was just starting to realise that potential at a relatively advanced age and that we would reap the benefits of it.
Sadly Jesse doesn't have it between the ears to want to be a good footballer. Even in the VFL he didn't impose himself on the game despite being physically superior to practically everyone out there. |
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CarringbushCigar 
Joined: 15 Nov 2007
Location: wherever I lay my beanie
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The club went all in for 2016 to save Bucks
The only thing we have over rated is the coach.
Once he is gone - improvement will be swift - this is a top-8 list.
None of us doubt that. |
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nomadjack
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
Location: Essendon
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| And yet almost no football experts picked us to play finals this year...it's a potential top 8 list if everything goes right this year...it hasn't. For the last three weeks we've put the youngest side in the afl on the park and we've played like it...go figure |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| Flashman wrote: | I think they had big hopes for White personally. He was noted for his athleticism and untapped talent and he had a reasonable last year at Sydney and I think the club hoped he was just starting to realise that potential at a relatively advanced age and that we would reap the benefits of it.
Sadly Jesse doesn't have it between the ears to want to be a good footballer. Even in the VFL he didn't impose himself on the game despite being physically superior to practically everyone out there. |
Yeah, not so sure our hopes for White were ever too great. Even his last year at the Swans only consisted on a few good games and 1 very good final. His form at the Pies has mirrored that. Not often a struggling 25-26 year old becomes a star, especially without mitigation like injuries. |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| Yep, most of us had the Pies finishing somewhere between 5-12 purely because there was so much doubt. I for one still see that as our range for this season. Despite how poorly we've played 4 games into a long season is just way to early to be discounting any outcome. |
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Darkstranger
Joined: 06 Jun 2012
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Look at most clubs and a lot of good players emerging are post pick 15, maybe we've just put too much effort in getting into the top ten we've deglected the rest?
We need pace & poise !
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Dave The Man 
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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| neil wrote: | DTM
Treloar and Aish are guns
You think we should not have recruited them
Instead we should have picked some gun kids
Can you see the contradiction? |
I like the Players we Got in the 2 but Espically with Treloar we paid a Big Price
I am not saying I hate what we did. Just is for Conversation
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AN_Inkling
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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The OP's premise is wrong. Treloar and Aish are perfect targets even for a developing side as they are both very young. Going to the draft is far more of a risk and we have already invested heavily in previous seasons. This was the year to sacrifice draft picks for quality and in the case of Treloar it's already clear we made a very good decision.
And this talk that our list is now no good is really an overreaction to a bit of poor form.
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