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didick
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| watt price tully wrote: | | didick wrote: | | Neil Appleby wrote: | The problem:
A very even competition; I reckon the most even looking in memory.
12 teams looking likely.
Lock in Hawthorn, West Coast, Freo, North, Dogs, Richmond
Two spots left: Port, Geelong, Sydney, Collingwood, GWS, GC
For us to sneak in, some teams will need to drop out.
If, as I predict, Port and Geelong are certainties then two teams tumble out. I have them as Adelaide and Sydney, but there's always a surprise tumble and a bolter. Maybe we could be the bolter.
We have a good looking midfield and what will be a better forward line, but the backline is the issue for me. Reid makes the difference. Reid plays plenty of games and we make the eight, probably in 7th or 8th spot. No Reid and we struggle.
I've been leaning to 9 all pre season. After watching the Doggies game I'm sticking with that. Ninth. |
Hi Neil, I think your "locks" for the top 8 are highly debatable. For example North, Dogs and Tigers. Anything could happen for those three and in my opinion we are as good a chance to make the 8 as either of those three.
I would be throwing in Sydney as a lock (although I am sick of those pricks); Kennedy, Hannebery, Parker are tough as nails and with Buddy and Tippet up front hard to stop.
My locks for argument sake would be:
Hawthorn, Sydney and Freo. Who else is sick of that? And West Coast.
Aside from Carlton, the Bombers and Saints, I reckon the rest is quite interchangeable.
On issues regarding the backline, yes it could be better, and will get better. But how many times last year did we really get a touch up at that end? A couple of games, often under a huge weight of opposition supply into our defensive zone through a leaky midfield at times and the same year on year problem of zoning and the opposition transitioning from defending a F50 entry to our defensive 50 with ease. I am expecting a tighter attacking 50 and midfield this year, reducing opposition entries resulting in a few more wins in the close ones. Add Reid in for hopefully a few games and things look even better.
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Hi WPT, I provided a number (3) earlier in the thread.
And I didn't realise the Rudeboy burger was still available. Is it available slightly underdone, like the Ben Reid burger?
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| BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | There's only three sides with better midfields than ours and that's Fremantle, WC and Port, so that translates to fourth position on the ladder. |
West Coast and Port's midfields are miles behind Collingwood's.
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CarringbushCigar
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| John Wren wrote: | | 16 or 17 wins to get top four. in an expected tighter competition where are the wins going to come from? |
OK - name the 7 matches we lose please |
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King Monkey
Joined: 15 Apr 2009
Location: On a journey to seek the scriptures of enlightenment....
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| John Wren wrote: | | 16 or 17 wins to get top four. in an expected tighter competition where are the wins going to come from? |
17-5 would be very stiff to not finish top 2.
I have us as a sneaky flag chance (been saying that since before the NAB series).
So: 1st.
Ladder position prior to finals being played: 3rd.
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John Wren 
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| King Monkey wrote: | | John Wren wrote: | | 16 or 17 wins to get top four. in an expected tighter competition where are the wins going to come from? |
17-5 would be very stiff to not finish top 2.
I have us as a sneaky flag chance (been saying that since before the NAB series).
So: 1st.
Ladder position prior to finals being played: 3rd. |
12 wins typically gets you into the eight. if things tighten up as expected 17/5 would be top two as you suggest.
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David 
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I'll say 7th. Maybe out in the semi-finals.
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Tannin 
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4th.
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What'sinaname
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Start the season 6-2 and then go 4-10 when we hit the tougher part of our fixture.
We will beat Carlton twice, but two losses to the Bulldogs will be the difference between 10th and finals.
Even I underestimated our crapulance during the soft part of our fixture. If we had have beaten the Vlues twice, then I would have nailed it, we would have finished with 10 wins, in 10th spot and lost twice to the Dogs
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watt price tully 
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| What'sinaname wrote: | Start the season 6-2 and then go 4-10 when we hit the tougher part of our fixture.
We will beat Carlton twice, but two losses to the Bulldogs will be the difference between 10th and finals. |
Call me mastermind, special subject the bleedin' obvious; I take it that your selecting 10th at the end of the year.
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AnthonyC 
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I just cannot be believe the thinking of some people.
It's a long season folks, a bit of early form in the practice matches really counts for little. I, like many others, have been through the tough times. You need to have some patience.
One Premiership at a time. One Premiership at a time. 
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magpieazza
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We are going to have a good year because injuries have played their part in the past and this year the gods will say " We are going to lay off you this year, go your hardest ! "
With that in mind its 3rd spot and we go into the grand final from there and then ...... I'd rather leave it to the imagination.
Even if we have a few injuries, we have more depth now so look out 2016!
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As I said in another thread "By my count, over the 3 NAB games, we got a total of 21 goals from our tall forwards, 10 from the smalls and 15 from the mids. That's 15 goals a game, with a few added from other sources, generally enough to win most matches. It's the Hydra approach - cut off one head and another pops up We have the mids and forwards to do that, so now the back boys need to come to the party consistently. Get that right and we are on our way."
Backline held up pretty well last year and I think it will be better this season.
Yes it is preseason, but there was nothing overly weak (compared to us) about the Cats, Roos and Doggies. We won, and we won close games which last season we did not.
Roos, Dogs and Tigs are no top 8 lock, Swans and Crows, maybes but not guarantees even with their homeground advantages. We have as good a shot as anyone at the 8 and I believe top 4. Just an opinion.
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John Wren
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| AnthonyC wrote: | I just cannot be believe the thinking of some people.
It's a long season folks, a bit of early form in the practice matches really counts for little. I, like many others, have been through the tough times. You need to have some patience.
One Premiership at a time. One Premiership at a time. |
we're improving. went from 32 years between drinks to 20 years. it's only been a bit over 5 years since our last. we've got a bit more pain and suffering to go.
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duke750
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The 32 years included 6 painful GF losses and 2 embarrassing GF losses (and 1 draw). The 20 years included 1 painful GF loss and 1 embarrassing GF loss (and 1 draw). So far there has been 1 painful GF loss since 2010. Let's hope there are no more, and no more draws.
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npalm
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Well I hope the AFL captains are bad judges. Based on their survey response to the following question they (effectively) think we're going to finish about 12th.
"Which seven other clubs do you think can make this year's top eight?"
Fremantle (17), Geelong (17), Hawthorn (17), West Coast (17), Sydney Swans (14), Port Adelaide (12), Richmond (7), North Melbourne (6), GWS (6), Western Bulldogs (6), Adelaide (4), Collingwood (3)
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