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Damien Aquarius

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:06 pm
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warburton lad wrote:
The giant is stirring.
Can make a case for anywhere between 1st and 10th.

All depends on Reid.
This year will be very similar to 2010; some familiar faces will be superseded by precocious young talent.

With a fit Reid, Goldsack , Greenwood and Cloke, emerging Moore , De Goey and the brilliance of Treloar we will be heaps better than 2015.

If Buckley shores up the leaky defence and works out a kick-out strategy that works, we can go deep into September.

My prediction is 3rd.


Oh and I reckon we'll finish 5th.

Who are the familiar faces you think will be superseded by precocious young talent? You mentioned Goldsack and I reckon he's definately one in that category. I'd say Toovey as well.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:37 am
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Well back from a long off season sleep.

Evening all.

We will finish 4th or better.

Go pies.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:57 am
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Rexy17 wrote:
Anywhere between 3 and 13, as wont be much between a lot of sides.
As we aint good on smashing sides when we should and as an result struggle to get decent percentage, I will go with 6th.


is this the right time in the season to have the "Percentage doesn't matter" debate!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:39 am
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Fourth behind the two WA sides and a draw gifted Geelong.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:15 am
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16 or 17 wins to get top four. in an expected tighter competition where are the wins going to come from?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:46 am
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:02 am
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The problem:
A very even competition; I reckon the most even looking in memory.
12 teams looking likely.
Lock in Hawthorn, West Coast, Freo, North, Dogs, Richmond
Two spots left: Port, Geelong, Sydney, Collingwood, GWS, GC
For us to sneak in, some teams will need to drop out.

If, as I predict, Port and Geelong are certainties then two teams tumble out. I have them as Adelaide and Sydney, but there's always a surprise tumble and a bolter. Maybe we could be the bolter.

We have a good looking midfield and what will be a better forward line, but the backline is the issue for me. Reid makes the difference. Reid plays plenty of games and we make the eight, probably in 7th or 8th spot. No Reid and we struggle.

I've been leaning to 9 all pre season. After watching the Doggies game I'm sticking with that. Ninth.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:24 am
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first if we can eliminate the kick out turnover (pipe dream)


realistically a disappointing 8th

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:10 am
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6th and we progress to the 2nd week.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:41 am
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I will be conservative and say 7th I hope its a lot higher!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:19 pm
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7 to 12
Having N.Brown and M.Williams kick out from full back proved to me that we still have no real plan moving the ball from defense after a behind. Defense is a BIG concern. If we don't win the ball out of the centre we struggles big time. The Geelong and Dogs games pre season showed how dangerous we are when we get the pill inside F50 quickly from the centre square. Bothe 3rd quarter comebacks were a result of finally winning centre clearances. If Reid and Elliott somehow play more than 12 games each, we could make top 6.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:55 pm
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Not ruling a top four finish out. Anything is possible, and as I write this post as the current ladder sits, even Carlton are equal top of the ladder! Laughing .

My concern with building expectation of a top four finish is thus....to make top four you can only afford three to four loses in a season. This will mean winning all the games we are expected to (something in recent seasons we have been unable to do)> While also picking up wins against sides ahead of us... Think Hawthorn, Fremantle, West Coast, Geelong, Richmond et.al.

Are we a much better team then last year? .....Pre-season form says yes..... but pre-season form is just that. Lets not forget that Carlton beat us in the pre-season last year and we knocked over Hawthorn. Those two sides were last and first respectively by seasons end.

Having said that, i think we will be a better side this year then last.

Prediction: 7th[b]

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:39 pm
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There's only three sides with better midfields than ours and that's Fremantle, WC and Port, so that translates to fourth position on the ladder.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:39 pm
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Neil Appleby wrote:
The problem:
A very even competition; I reckon the most even looking in memory.
12 teams looking likely.
Lock in Hawthorn, West Coast, Freo, North, Dogs, Richmond
Two spots left: Port, Geelong, Sydney, Collingwood, GWS, GC
For us to sneak in, some teams will need to drop out.

If, as I predict, Port and Geelong are certainties then two teams tumble out. I have them as Adelaide and Sydney, but there's always a surprise tumble and a bolter. Maybe we could be the bolter.

We have a good looking midfield and what will be a better forward line, but the backline is the issue for me. Reid makes the difference. Reid plays plenty of games and we make the eight, probably in 7th or 8th spot. No Reid and we struggle.

I've been leaning to 9 all pre season. After watching the Doggies game I'm sticking with that. Ninth.


Hi Neil, I think your "locks" for the top 8 are highly debatable. For example North, Dogs and Tigers. Anything could happen for those three and in my opinion we are as good a chance to make the 8 as either of those three.

I would be throwing in Sydney as a lock (although I am sick of those pricks); Kennedy, Hannebery, Parker are tough as nails and with Buddy and Tippet up front hard to stop.

My locks for argument sake would be:
Hawthorn, Sydney and Freo. Who else is sick of that? And West Coast.
Aside from Carlton, the Bombers and Saints, I reckon the rest is quite interchangeable.

On issues regarding the backline, yes it could be better, and will get better. But how many times last year did we really get a touch up at that end? A couple of games, often under a huge weight of opposition supply into our defensive zone through a leaky midfield at times and the same year on year problem of zoning and the opposition transitioning from defending a F50 entry to our defensive 50 with ease. I am expecting a tighter attacking 50 and midfield this year, reducing opposition entries resulting in a few more wins in the close ones. Add Reid in for hopefully a few games and things look even better.


My two cents.

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didick wrote:
Neil Appleby wrote:
The problem:
A very even competition; I reckon the most even looking in memory.
12 teams looking likely.
Lock in Hawthorn, West Coast, Freo, North, Dogs, Richmond
Two spots left: Port, Geelong, Sydney, Collingwood, GWS, GC
For us to sneak in, some teams will need to drop out.

If, as I predict, Port and Geelong are certainties then two teams tumble out. I have them as Adelaide and Sydney, but there's always a surprise tumble and a bolter. Maybe we could be the bolter.

We have a good looking midfield and what will be a better forward line, but the backline is the issue for me. Reid makes the difference. Reid plays plenty of games and we make the eight, probably in 7th or 8th spot. No Reid and we struggle.

I've been leaning to 9 all pre season. After watching the Doggies game I'm sticking with that. Ninth.


Hi Neil, I think your "locks" for the top 8 are highly debatable. For example North, Dogs and Tigers. Anything could happen for those three and in my opinion we are as good a chance to make the 8 as either of those three.

I would be throwing in Sydney as a lock (although I am sick of those pricks); Kennedy, Hannebery, Parker are tough as nails and with Buddy and Tippet up front hard to stop.

My locks for argument sake would be:
Hawthorn, Sydney and Freo. Who else is sick of that? And West Coast.
Aside from Carlton, the Bombers and Saints, I reckon the rest is quite interchangeable.

On issues regarding the backline, yes it could be better, and will get better. But how many times last year did we really get a touch up at that end? A couple of games, often under a huge weight of opposition supply into our defensive zone through a leaky midfield at times and the same year on year problem of zoning and the opposition transitioning from defending a F50 entry to our defensive 50 with ease. I am expecting a tighter attacking 50 and midfield this year, reducing opposition entries resulting in a few more wins in the close ones. Add Reid in for hopefully a few games and things look even better.

My two cents.


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