Gun laws in USA??

[Pies4shaw]

Or you think that children should not, as a rule, carry guns.

Or otherwise exhibit thinking on this subject that isn�t clinically disordered.

[Skids]

[David]

Farms and remote rural properties are precisely the kind of places you would expect to find registered firearms in our (comparatively) heavily regulated system. Even those like me who support strict gun control appreciate that these are legitimate places to have them; and while any death in such circumstances is an unspeakable tragedy, it stands to reason that such will occasionally occur (because people with guns do from time to time kill other people).

All I can say is that the US should be so lucky to only have a rural family gun homicide every now and then.

[Mugwump]

^ fully agreed, David.

On a different but related note, the US may be the indispensable democracy, but its social system shows the danger of democracy when it is unmoderated by reason. Like the election of Trump, this unreformable blight upon its peace should make us sceptical of the US�s particular democratic model (which Australia�s model closely resembles).

[Nick - Pie Man]

Either dumb people get to vote, or we don't get a democracy. Can't have it both ways.

[stui magpie]

[Mugwump]

^ Except that�s not true. It�s quite possible to have a democracy with stabilizers. The judiciary is an example. They are appointed, not elected. Similarly, in the UK House of Lords is (largely) appointed, with some hereditary peers. It is presently doing brilliant work injecting sense into the Brexit issue. Unlike members of the House of Commons which is living in terror of the tabloid newspapers, the HoL is ensuring that the views of the 48% who voted against Brexit are being heard.

Hitler came to power via a democratic process, where he got 33% of the vote. Though we can only guess, he would probably have gained more votes in a fair election in 1938.

The idea that democracy means simply �everyone votes and the result is whatever they vote for� is a recipe for poor government indeed. Good democracies give everyone a vote, and take direction from that vote, but they allow law to be reviewed and refined by elites before it is effected.

Personally I�m also attracted to the idea of a second house elected by all, but granting an additional vote or two to those who have demonstrated life achievements : raising children successfully, long careers of public or voluntary service, making tax contributions, etc. it�d need to be designed so that it didn�t reinforce privilege, but I think that could be done.

[K]

[Culprit]

More Prayers and Thoughts today. 11 dead more injured and not a terrorist, just another a white man.

[watt price tully]

[stui magpie]

Well he's not a Trump supporter, maybe he's an antisemetic democrat kook.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/27/us/synagogue-attack-suspect-robert-bowers-profile/index.html

[HAL]

Oh a web page.

[watt price tully]

[HAL]

What movie was it?

[stui magpie]