Gun laws in USA??

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[Wokko]

[David]

Sorry, clearly I was in over my head there – what I meant to say was the bang-bang machine that fires bullets really fast and kills defenceless schoolchildren quickly.

(Although, interestingly, such a beast does exist. You just might need to go to Russia to get it ... for now!)

http://www.military-today.com/firearms/ak_15.htm

[think positive]

18 this year, 1 every 60 hours....18 kids who feel so bad, so sad, they pick up a gun and shoot people. Why. Forget the availability and the stupidity of it for a minute. Why is this happening?

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[HAL]

I will ask Mike to purge my memory log.

[David]

It’s only since the 1960s that many of these weapons have been publicly available. Something possible thus becomes conceivable. It’s also likely that media coverage creates a copycat effect – not necessarily directly, but in the sense that such an act (shooting up a school) enters the national psyche as a thing that can be done. From there, you just need the ingredients (alienated, maladjusted youth), the tools (easily available fast-firing weapons) and whichever random public space they happen to choose.

Anyway, forget about cultural change. If I were an American and had the means, I would be making plans to move overseas. To live surrounded by guns, in fear of being randomly shot anywhere at any moment, is unacceptable, and a situation that is clearly far past the point of remedy.

[Mugwump]

But weapons with magazines capable of firing up to 5 rounds with rapid magazine replacement have been fairly standard issue in the US during and post WW1. A few spare clips and similar carnage could easily have been inflicted. I think the efficiency of the gun influences the scale of the carnage, but I doubt it is a good explanation of the initial decision to start shooting uninvolved parties. Copycat validation probably plays a greater part. Older fathers also seem to have more autistic children, and that may explain it somewhat, too. But the presence of heavy drug use, ‘roids and anti-depressants - often affecting frontal lobe functioning and often used in combination - is still the best hypothesis, I think. Regardless, taking guns out of society, and especially high-efficiency guns, seems good policy.

These incidents are dreadful, but they are not quite as traumatic as you imagine, to the average American. It’s a very big place, with a population about 18 Times (at a guess?) Australia. So 18 incidents there equals 1 here statistically, and most people live in cities where it has not happened, or in cities where some neighborhoods can seem a world away.

[Wokko]

There were fully automatic weapons around in the 20s, the Tommy Gun was readily available until full autos were restricted in I think the 30s.

[Wokko]

Also, the 18 school shootings thing is a total media fabrication.

[think positive]

its not a total fabrication,
guns went off, or bullets landed, in school grounds on 18 different occasions.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/heres-how-everytowns-disputed-report-of-18-school-shootings-breaks-down.html

now you can certainly argue further but really? 2 of them have been major, with many casualties, and as i typed that i checked myself - WTAF! i just picked 2 bunches of dead children out of 18 different shooting scenarios!! how did i become so desensitized?

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[Wokko]

[think positive]

ok so how many on the list count?

[Wokko]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27230/flat-wrong-washington-post-torches-much-cited-james-barrett