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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:53 pm
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We here the president going on about restrictions, then this?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/06/open-carry-in-texas-causing-confusion-for-law-enforcement.html

Texas is the 45th state to allow open-carry in some form. Thirty states do not require the carrier to have a license, but Texas is among the 15 states that require a permit. Existing gun owners -- those who previously had concealed-carry permits -- are not required to do anything different. New applicants will have to go through updated training, according to the Texas Department of Public Safety.

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Because the President is going beyond his authority as executive while breaking his oath to uphold the Constitution.

The States aren't going to comply and his illegal executive orders will be revoked by the next President (unless it's Hillary, she'll just declare herself Dictator perpetuo. Laughing

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Wokko wrote:
Because the President is going beyond his authority as executive while breaking his oath to uphold the Constitution.

The States aren't going to comply and his illegal executive orders will be revoked by the next President (unless it's Hillary, she'll just declare herself Dictator perpetuo. Laughing


So anyone can just get a Guns when ever they want?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:35 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
Wokko wrote:
Because the President is going beyond his authority as executive while breaking his oath to uphold the Constitution.

The States aren't going to comply and his illegal executive orders will be revoked by the next President (unless it's Hillary, she'll just declare herself Dictator perpetuo. Laughing


So anyone can just get a Guns when ever they want?


no Dave they cant
they need a licence to buy a gun, they have cooling off periods,

just like australia, only the crims get guns "just like that"

the OP is misleading, you need a license to get a gun legally anywhere, most states you need a separate license to carry openly,

hwever, their requirements to get a licence are a lot slacker, and you can buy nastier guns

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think positive wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:
Wokko wrote:
Because the President is going beyond his authority as executive while breaking his oath to uphold the Constitution.

The States aren't going to comply and his illegal executive orders will be revoked by the next President (unless it's Hillary, she'll just declare herself Dictator perpetuo. Laughing


So anyone can just get a Guns when ever they want?


no Dave they cant
they need a licence, they have cooling off periods,

just like australia, only the crims get guns "just like that"

its just their requirements to get a licence are a lot slacker, and you can buy nastier guns


Guns like the AK-47?

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Dave The Man wrote:
think positive wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:
Wokko wrote:
Because the President is going beyond his authority as executive while breaking his oath to uphold the Constitution.

The States aren't going to comply and his illegal executive orders will be revoked by the next President (unless it's Hillary, she'll just declare herself Dictator perpetuo. Laughing


So anyone can just get a Guns when ever they want?


no Dave they cant
they need a licence, they have cooling off periods,

just like australia, only the crims get guns "just like that"

its just their requirements to get a licence are a lot slacker, and you can buy nastier guns


Guns like the AK-47?


yes but just quietly, the SOA are still getting them from the IRA

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think positive wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:
Wokko wrote:
Because the President is going beyond his authority as executive while breaking his oath to uphold the Constitution.

The States aren't going to comply and his illegal executive orders will be revoked by the next President (unless it's Hillary, she'll just declare herself Dictator perpetuo. Laughing


So anyone can just get a Guns when ever they want?


no Dave they cant
they need a licence to buy a gun, they have cooling off periods,

just like australia, only the crims get guns "just like that"

the OP is misleading, you need a license to get a gun legally anywhere, most states you need a separate license to carry openly,

hwever, their requirements to get a licence are a lot slacker, and you can buy nastier guns


How's it misleading? Read the sentence after the bold one, 30 states do not require the carrier to have a license.

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Some States do not require licensing of either the shooter or the weapons, as they see licensing as an infringement on firearm ownership.

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Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
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I don't see why so many people in the US are adamant that a constitutional amendment can't be changed. It's a fkn amendment for christs sake, just amend it.
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Dave The Man wrote:
Wokko wrote:
Because the President is going beyond his authority as executive while breaking his oath to uphold the Constitution.

The States aren't going to comply and his illegal executive orders will be revoked by the next President (unless it's Hillary, she'll just declare herself Dictator perpetuo. Laughing


So anyone can just get a Guns when ever they want?


No, there are some categories that were banned under the National Firearms Act of 1934 including automatic firing.

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Skids wrote:
think positive wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:
Wokko wrote:
Because the President is going beyond his authority as executive while breaking his oath to uphold the Constitution.

The States aren't going to comply and his illegal executive orders will be revoked by the next President (unless it's Hillary, she'll just declare herself Dictator perpetuo. Laughing


So anyone can just get a Guns when ever they want?


no Dave they cant
they need a licence to buy a gun, they have cooling off periods,

just like australia, only the crims get guns "just like that"

the OP is misleading, you need a license to get a gun legally anywhere, most states you need a separate license to carry openly,

hwever, their requirements to get a licence are a lot slacker, and you can buy nastier guns


How's it misleading? Read the sentence after the bold one, 30 states do not require the carrier to have a license.


they allow you to open carry, (ie have it showing, not concealed) you still need a gun licence.

from your link

Texas is the 45th state to allow open-carry in some form. Thirty states do not require the carrier to have a license, but Texas is among the 15 states that require a permit. Existing gun owners -- those who previously had concealed-carry permits -- are not required to do anything different. New applicants will have to go through updated training, according to the Texas Department of Public Safety.

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Alaska, Arizona and Vermont are the only states in the union to allow the general public to carry concealed, without need of license or permit.

Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Washington do not require any certificate of firearms training.

SHALL ISSUE:States with "shall issue" systems require a license or permit to carry a concealed handgun, and applicants must meet meet certain well defined objective criteria. However, unlike "may issue" systems, a "shall issue" state removes all arbitrary bias and discretion, compelling the issuing authority to award the permit.

Shall issue states include: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, and Wyoming.While Alaska and Arizona are states without mandatory licensing (to carry within the borders of those states), they do provide a "shall issue" system of licensing, in order to allow residents to take advantage of reciprocity when traveling to other states.

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/shall-issue-may-issue-no-issue-and-unrestricted-states

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I don't see why so many people in the US are adamant that a constitutional amendment can't be changed. It's a fkn amendment for christs sake, just amend it.


They revoked the alcohol prohibition act. The US gun nuts are still pissed off that a black man is POTUS and may be replaced with a woman. It is a shame it won't be a black or native american gay woman.

There are a lot of retired men where I live, quite a lot of Americans. They are pissed off that Thailand forbids foreigners to own firearms. I have heard one bloke carry on about his rights. He just can't accept that his US rights leave him when he moves to another country.

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Yep. Guess what dude, you want to have those rights, get your arse back to the USA cos here you don't have em.

BTW, the Clinton train is going to grind to a halt soon, and trump's opposition are self destructing around him so prepare for the big Donald as the nest POTUS, god help us all.

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Could American gun laws really get any worse, though? I struggle to think how.
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