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Mugwump
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| stui magpie wrote: | Yeah but the bombs were targeted. They didn't just nuke the whole area, they sent a message,
That would only be the obvious bit of what they've done, as much for PR as anything else, their real reaction will be less overt and public and more deadly. |
It's pretty weird. If they knew these were IS HQ zones already, why were they waiting ????
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Tannin 
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| think positive wrote: | | Did you is the bit about the 20 bombs they dropped today! Hardly taking their time! |
They have been dropping bombs for months already. Nothing new here. And 20 bombs is bugger-all by military standards.
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Tannin
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| stui magpie wrote: | Yeah but the bombs were targeted. They didn't just nuke the whole area, they sent a message,
That would only be the obvious bit of what they've done, as much for PR as anything else, their real reaction will be less overt and public and more deadly. |
Just so. And if they have got half a brain (which I reckon they do) it won't unfold overnight.
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stui magpie 
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Shush. Don't ruin the story with facts. 
They could have bombed empty desert, it doesn't matter, the point is they were able to announce a strikeback,
PR like I said.
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| stui magpie wrote: | Shush. Don't ruin the story with facts.
They could have bombed empty desert, it doesn't matter, the point is they were able to announce a strikeback,
PR like I said. |
I fell for it
By the way, where's my bridge?
Was thinking of going to Europe in 2017, hmmm.
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Tannin
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Go with confidence. You are at 1000 times greater risk of being hurt by a random drive-by shooter in Washington or Seattle than you are by a terrorist in Paris or London. 10,000 times more likely to die when your taxi is t-boned by an 18-wheeler. 100,000 times more likely to break your neck falling off a ladder or stepping out of the shower. 20,000 times more likely to be killed by your husband, father, or son-in-law.
People never think about risk statistics. You are smart enough to think it through and do the numbers. Why not do that?
PS: call me. I'm a bit short on cash this week and I just happen to have a lovely little bridge going spare.
PPS: Don't fantasise about more police and more heavily armed police to "protect" you either. The risk of being shot and killed by a policeman in the United States is eight times higher than the risk of being shot be a terrorist in Europe. See here: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/16/the-counted-killed-by-police-1000
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Tannin
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David
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Good article, Tannin, thanks.
I'll repost what I wrote on Facebook:
The conclusion is largely accurate, but what will lead anyone to change their disposition? Most people don't just not care about Kenyans, they don't care about not caring. I think to some extent media organisations have to be the ones to step up to the plate, and that's where government regulation comes in. Tell editors that they are required to provide roughly equal treatment of international events (obviously local events will still take priority though), and get the ACMA on the case to enforce it.
Why do we need to do this? Because these double standards continue the dehumanisation of foreigners, and in a multicultural society, empathy for the 'other' is an essential part of maintaining social cohesion. It would also increase public knowledge of geography and international affairs, an essential skill in an increasingly globalised world.
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David
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Alternatively, government subsidies for the news organisations who agree to sign up to this charter.
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There are probably more Australians lying in the soil of France than any other nation on Earth save our own. This must be part of the reason for the hierarchy of interest.
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stui magpie
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| Mountains Magpie wrote: | There are probably more Australians lying in the soil of France than any other nation on Earth save our own. This must be part of the reason for the hierarchy of interest.
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They also gave the Statue of Liberty to the USA and were their oldest ally so it makes sense the US media was more focused on France.
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David
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Come on guys, really?
This is the same country that was renaming its French fries a decade ago.
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stui magpie
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Which country and to what? 
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| David wrote: |
And yet, we know that these events do not only occur in Europe and North America. A couple of days ago, 43 people were killed in a similar attack in Lebanon. 50-80 were killed in an attack on a Shia mosque in Bangladesh less than a month ago. These attacks did not get front page treatment in the newspapers, and weren't given rolling live coverage on TV. The Sydney Opera House was not lit up in the colours of Lebanon or Bangladesh. Those of us who heard about these attacks would not have spent more than 5 minutes thinking about them, and I dare say the majority of us didn't even hear about them at all.
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There's not enough room to report them all.
Here's the list of terrorist attacks over the last fortnight for you....
Date
Country
City
Killed
Injured
Description
2015.11.13 France Paris 5 8 Islamic terrorists shoot up a bar and pizzaria, killing five patrons (La Bonne Biere, Casa Nostra).
2015.11.13 France Paris 15 10 Islamic terrorists massacre fifteen innocents at two restaurants (Le Carillon and Le Petit Cambodge).
2015.11.13 France Paris 1 0 Islamic terrorists eliminate a passerby with two suicide blasts outside a soccer stadium (Stade de France) and a nearby McDonalds's.
2015.11.13 France Paris 19 9 Islamic terrorists pile up nineteen bodies at a restaurant (Belle Equipe).
2015.11.13 France Paris 89 322 Islamic terrorists open fire and throw bombs during a concert at a music hall, slaughtering nearly ninety innocents while shouting 'Allah Akbar' (Bataclan).
2015.11.13 Israel Otniel 2 5 A Jewish father and son are murdered by Palestinians as they are on their way to a wedding event.
2015.11.13 Iraq Baghdad 21 46 A suicide bomber strikes a Shia funeral, laying out twenty-one mourners.
2015.11.12 Syria al-Heisha 4 0 A boy, his grandfather and two farmers reduced to pulp by an ISIS missile.
2015.11.12 Lebanon Beirut 43 240 Two Sunni suicide bombers massacre over forty people in a Shiite residential neighborhood.
2015.11.11 Iraq Baiji 13 0 Thirteen members of two families are crushed to death in their own homes by ISIS explosives.
2015.11.11 Niger Bossa 5 0 At least five civilians are killed when Boko Haram attack a village.
2015.11.11 Egypt Harhor 8 1 A child is among eight family members slaughtered in their home by fundamentalist militants.
2015.11.11 Iraq Ekreshat 22 0 Twenty-two civil servants are marched out to a field and executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.11 Iraq Tarmiya 2 4 Two people are killed when Jihadis bomb a market.
2015.11.10 Iraq Shaab 2 7 A Sunni bomb rips through a parking lot, killing two.
2015.11.10 Afghanistan Khak-i-Afghan 2 0 At least two others are killed by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.11.10 Iraq Dora 2 0 Two merchants are shot to death by Islamists.
2015.11.10 Iraq Baghdad 3 8 A blast at an outdoor market leaves three dead.
2015.11.10 Iraq Hussainiyah 4 7 Terrorists set off a bomb in a residential neighborhood, killing four.
2015.11.10 Syria Latakia 23 65 Sunnis send rockets into an area near a university, sending sixty-five to the hospital and twenty-three to the morgue.
2015.11.10 Pakistan Guddu 2 0 Islamic terrorists sneak up on a police post and machine-gun two officers.
2015.11.10 India Madikeri 1 20 A farmer's skull is crushed from a rock thrown by angry Muslims during a an anti-Hindu riot.
2015.11.10 Yemen Sanaa 1 0 An American contractor dies in custody after being kidnapped by Shiite militia.
2015.11.09 Pakistan Karachi 1 3 One person is cut down by sectarian Jihadis.
2015.11.09 Israel Hilhul Junction 1 6 Six Israelis are stabbed or run over by Palestinians. A victim also dies of wounds suffered in an earlier attack.
2015.11.09 CAR Ndassima 10 8 Muslim militia cut the throats of ten Christian villagers.
2015.11.09 Cameroon Fotokol 3 20 At least three others are killed when female suicide bombers attack a rival mosque.
2015.11.09 Jordan Amman 5 4 Two Americans and a South African are gunned down along with two locals by an Islamic extremist in uniform.
2015.11.09 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three young people are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.08 Afghanistan Rasani 7 0 Two women and a child are among seven civilians kidnapped and beheaded by ISIS.
2015.11.08 Yemen Sanaa 16 6 Shiite militants are thought responsible for a brutal bombing that killed sixteen government troops at their barracks.
2015.11.08 Iraq Sadr City 7 20 A double suicide bombing at a Shiite market lays out seven patrons.
2015.11.08 Syria Aleppo 4 3 A child is among four civilians cut down by a Sunni rocket.
2015.11.08 Chad Ngouboua 3 12 Two female suicide bombers murder three refugees at a fishing village.
2015.11.08 iraq Baghdad 2 8 A bomb at a popular market produces a bloody mess and two dead bodies.
2015.11.07 Iraq Albu Haiyat 5 12 Roadside bombs take care of five Iraqis, with a dozen surviving.
2015.11.07 Iraq Baghdad 3 15 Two Jihad bombings leave three dead.
2015.11.07 Iraq Tarmiya 6 0 A suicide bomber claims six other lives.
2015.11.07 Pakistan Quetta 2 0 Two Hazara religious minorities are sprayed with bullets by Ahle Sunnat wal Jamaat members.
2015.11.06 Pakistan Quetta 1 1 A Shiite is gunned down by Sunni radicals.
2015.11.06 Afghanistan Shamir 1 0 Religion of Peace activists kill a rival cleric with a car bomb.
2015.11.06 Iraq Yusufiya 1 2 Jihadi bombers take out a woman and injure her two children.
2015.11.06 Libya Ajdabiya 1 0 A Salifi cleric is shot to death by Religion of Peace rivals.
2015.11.06 Iraq Maidan 2 5 Two people at a meat market are butchered by ISIS bombers.
2015.11.06 Iraq Baghdad 3 9 Bombers target a residential area, killing three unfortunates.
2015.11.05 Lebanon Arsal 5 15 Five Muslim scholars are taken out by a suicide blast from a Religion of Peace rival.
2015.11.05 Iraq Baghdad 2 6 A bomb placed on a bus kills two passengers.
2015.11.04 Iraq Tal Afar 2 0 Two men are forced to kneel and then shot in the back of the head by Islamic warriors.
2015.11.04 Syria Mayadeen 3 0 Three brothers are publicly and slowly tortured to death by the Islamic State.
2015.11.04 Bangladesh Ashulia 1 1 Islamists hack a police officer to death during a traffic stop.
2015.11.04 Egypt al-Arish 5 10 A suicide bomber plows into a police club, killing at least five others.
2015.11.04 Iraq Baghdad 3 14 Two bombs claim the lives of three bystanders.
2015.11.04 Syria Hassakeh 2 0 Two people are murdered by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2015.11.04 Afghanistan Shah Joy 1 0 The Taliban murder a civil activist on his way to work.
2015.11.04 USA Merced, CA 0 4 A student vowing to behead and 'praise Allah' stabs four others on campus.
2015.11.03 Afghanistan Tank 1 0 A journalist and father of five is shot to death by Sunni fundamentalists.
2015.11.03 Pakistan Salarzai 1 2 Sharia activists set off a bomb that kills a tribal elder and injures his two sons.
2015.11.03 Iraq Dibis 4 15 Four people are murdered by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.11.03 Syria Harasta 1 0 Shrapnel from a Sunni rocket kills a woman on her way to work.
2015.11.02 Afghanistan Ghor 1 0 A 19-year-old woman is stoned to death for premarital sex.
2015.11.02 Somalia Walaweyn 15 15 Fifteen Somalis are killed in a road ambush by al-Shabaab.
2015.11.02 Syria Homs 3 0 Three men are executed by Quran-quoting Muslims.
2015.11.02 Israel Rishon Lezion 0 3 An 80-year-old woman is among three stabbed by a Palestinian terrorist outside a store.
2015.11.02 Iraq Mahmoudiya 2 6 Terrorists set off a bomb at a popular market, killing two innocents.
2015.11.02 India Bharuch 2 0 Two Hindu leaders are assassinated by Muslim terrorists.
2015.11.02 Iraq Badush 3 0 Three female doctors are put against a wall and shot in the head by the Islamic State.
2015.11.01 Somalia Mogadishu 12 10 a dozen people at a hotel are massacred by suicide bombers, followed by gunfire.
2015.11.01 Pakistan Rana Deray 1 0 Suspected Islamists fire on a car carrying a female judge, killing the driver.
2015.11.01 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three Kurds are executed for refusing to join the caliphate.
2015.11.01 Chad Bougouma 3 14 A suicide bombing and subsequent attack leave three dead.
2015.11.01 Syria Maheen 50 0 Two suicide car bombings followed by a sustained assault leave at least fifty other dead.
You'd need a lot of 'Front pages'
You can see the daily lists of attacks here http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ .
But this has been proven to be an incomplete reporting method, there are actually more attacks and deaths/injuries.
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