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inxs88
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B: S Burns S Wakelin J Clement
HB: M McGuane N Maxwell H Shaw
C: G Brown N Buckley D Millane
HF: A Didak A Rocca D Swan
F: P Daicos T Cloke C Tarrant
F: D Monkhorst S Pendlebury T Shaw
ICH: D Beams, S Morwood, S Russell, P Licuria
EMERG: S Sidebottom, G Crosisca, G Wright
Am sure others shall highlight alternatives but my criteria was for sustained excellence for those whose careers who started in the 1990's and acknowledgement to those who ended their careers in the early 1990's whom shaped our glorious flag in 1990!
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Bob Sugar
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No no no, the centre and wings are set in stone! and it reads Wright-Buckley-Pants.
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AN_Inkling
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I'd have both Presti and N.Brown ahead of Waklein.
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What'sinaname 
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As much as I love him, Tarrant doesn't deserve to be in this team. I don't think he ever fulfilled his potential at the Pies.
And Presti is way ahead of Waken as FB.
I'd also put Wright on the wing, and Gav Brown replaces Beams on the pine.
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stui magpie 
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B: Burns Presti H. Shaw
HB: Clement Reid McGuane
W: Wright Buckley Milane
HF Didak A. Rocca Swan
FF Daicos Cloke Tarrant
R Monkey Pendles T Shaw
ICH Fraser Maxwell Francis Sidebottom
Emerg: Russell Crossisca Morwood
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magman29
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| JOHN GREENING..... drop anyone for him |
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inxs88
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Good feedback. I guess my view on some of the above points are:
* Gavin Brown had Graham Wright covered and had 8 top years on wing
* Wright was an excellent wingman (1990 especially) but did taper a tad, got the illness, temporarily retired and was done at 29
* Presti: my view was that he was a limited footballer who invariably got towelled up Riewoldt, Fevola, Hawkins and co.
* Reid: yet to fulfil his potential (hope he does)
* Slotted Russell ahead of Francis due to greater "consistency" over 9 years
* Fraser's body inhibited potential being realised
* Tarrant: he was the one I "debated with" but for "3 vote" best on ground performances in a tough era when Forwards started getting cramped for space, he snuck in.
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Mossi 
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| stui magpie wrote: | B: Burns Presti H. Shaw
HB: Clement Reid McGuane
C: Wright Buckley Milane
HF Didak A. Rocca Swan
FF Daicos Cloke Tarrant
R Monkey Pendles T Shaw
ICH Fraser Maxwell Francis Sidebottom
Emerg: Russell Crossisca Morwood |
I like it stui but..... you can't leave Gavin Brown out!
B: Burns Presti H. Shaw
HB: Clement Reid McGuane
C G. Brown Buckley Milane
HF Didak A. Rocca Swan
FF Daicos Cloke Tarrant
R Monkey Pendles T Shaw
ICH Wright Maxwell Francis Sidebottom |
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Bob Sugar
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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| Mossi wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | B: Burns Presti H. Shaw
HB: Clement Reid McGuane
C: Wright Buckley Milane
HF Didak A. Rocca Swan
FF Daicos Cloke Tarrant
R Monkey Pendles T Shaw
ICH Fraser Maxwell Francis Sidebottom
Emerg: Russell Crossisca Morwood |
I like it stui but..... you can't leave Gavin Brown out!
B: Burns Presti H. Shaw
HB: Clement Reid McGuane
C G. Brown Buckley Milane
HF Didak A. Rocca Swan
FF Daicos Cloke Tarrant
R Monkey Pendles T Shaw
ICH Wright Maxwell Francis Sidebottom |
Brown was a very good player, but I reckon he gets overrated a bit by most fans, Wright was the better player IMO, Brown was a jack of all trades type, master of none, I'd still have him in the side though, probably on the bench due to his versatility, Sidders misses out for mine.
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stui magpie
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| Mossi wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | B: Burns Presti H. Shaw
HB: Clement Reid McGuane
C: Wright Buckley Milane
HF Didak A. Rocca Swan
FF Daicos Cloke Tarrant
R Monkey Pendles T Shaw
ICH Fraser Maxwell Francis Sidebottom
Emerg: Russell Crossisca Morwood |
I like it stui but..... you can't leave Gavin Brown out!
B: Burns Presti H. Shaw
HB: Clement Reid McGuane
C G. Brown Buckley Milane
HF Didak A. Rocca Swan
FF Daicos Cloke Tarrant
R Monkey Pendles T Shaw
ICH Wright Maxwell Francis Sidebottom |
Shit. I didn't realise I had.
OK scrap balance, Brown in on the bench for Francis.
I know Fraser won't be on a lot of lists but MM ruined him. He was still a great player for a long time but his potential got capped early on.
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Bob Sugar
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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| stui magpie wrote: | | Mossi wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | B: Burns Presti H. Shaw
HB: Clement Reid McGuane
C: Wright Buckley Milane
HF Didak A. Rocca Swan
FF Daicos Cloke Tarrant
R Monkey Pendles T Shaw
ICH Fraser Maxwell Francis Sidebottom
Emerg: Russell Crossisca Morwood |
I like it stui but..... you can't leave Gavin Brown out!
B: Burns Presti H. Shaw
HB: Clement Reid McGuane
C G. Brown Buckley Milane
HF Didak A. Rocca Swan
FF Daicos Cloke Tarrant
R Monkey Pendles T Shaw
ICH Wright Maxwell Francis Sidebottom |
Shit. I didn't realise I had.
OK scrap balance, Brown in on the bench for Francis.
I know Fraser won't be on a lot of lists but MM ruined him. He was still a great player for a long time but his potential got capped early on. |
What did Mick do to Fraser that Buckley is t doing to Grundy? Fraser was a ruckman, it's just that he wasn't very good at it.
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stui magpie
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Fraser was a slender body that MM crucified by playing him 1st ruck. He should have held him back and worked him off the field until his body developed more. Then we may have seen the best of him. By the time his body matured it was already half busted.
Grundy is a mature body in a young man. He still has maturing to do but at the same age Fraser was a stick.
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Bob Sugar
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| stui magpie wrote: | Fraser was a slender body that MM crucified by playing him 1st ruck. He should have held him back and worked him off the field until his body developed more. Then we may have seen the best of him. By the time his body matured it was already half busted.
Grundy is a mature body in a young man. He still has maturing to do but at the same age Fraser was a stick. |
Fraser was always a stick.
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burnsy17 
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^^
LOL Fraser.... Wonder what that maddam is up to these days?
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The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Joined: 26 Sep 2013
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| Bob Sugar wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | Fraser was a slender body that MM crucified by playing him 1st ruck. He should have held him back and worked him off the field until his body developed more. Then we may have seen the best of him. By the time his body matured it was already half busted.
Grundy is a mature body in a young man. He still has maturing to do but at the same age Fraser was a stick. |
Fraser was always a stick. |
Shoulda just played him as a versatile secondary forward... hard done by imho. |
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