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think positive 
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Dave is right though, for at least one terrorist, it was that simple, and now thanks to that selfish arsehole, every single genuine refugee will get a second look.
These fuckheads are just plain evil. They need to be eliminated, exterminated, wiped out, they serve no purpose on earth, just oxygen theives.
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Dave The Man 
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| think positive wrote: | Dave is right though, for at least one terrorist, it was that simple, and now thanks to that selfish arsehole, every single genuine refugee will get a second look.
These fuckheads are just plain evil. They need to be eliminated, exterminated, wiped out, they serve no purpose on earth, just oxygen theives. |
The West are to Scared as they think it will set off or People in There Countries. Doing what Exacly Happened but in bigger Scale
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HAL
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| Is real also invasion of Europe? |
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Skids
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| HAL wrote: | | Is real also invasion of Europe? |
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David
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So even if we can conclusively prove that 1 in 1000 refugees is a terrorist, what can you possibly do about that? Do you block all of them from coming in? If so, you may as well apply the same logic to homegrown citizens and start deporting people randomly, in the hope that 1 out of 1000 people you're exiling have terroristic tendencies.
We need to do all we can to stop these attacks, but the answer isn't throwing innocent people under the bus.
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stui magpie 
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The authorities need to stop/prevent 100% of attacks to be successful.
Terrorists only need one to work.
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David
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^ But it's simply not possible, any more than it is to eradicate any other type of crime. Reducing the likelihood of attacks is a form of success.
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Nuke em!!!
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thebaldfacts
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| David wrote: | So even if we can conclusively prove that 1 in 1000 refugees is a terrorist, what can you possibly do about that? Do you block all of them from coming in? If so, you may as well apply the same logic to homegrown citizens and start deporting people randomly, in the hope that 1 out of 1000 people you're exiling have terroristic tendencies.
We need to do all we can to stop these attacks, but the answer isn't throwing innocent people under the bus. |
Well what is the answer then? Obviously holding hands and singing kumbaya. around the camp fire is not going to work.
The current policies have failed and may have contributed to what is happening know, so what are we to do? I fear that it is too late for Europe and this will become the new normal.
If the existing policies leads to hundreds of innocents being killed and many hundreds more being injured, how can we support these?
France is now at war with the Islamic State. Looks like more death and destruction to come. They have said they will be merciless.
I don't pretend to know the answers, but I doubt you do either.
We need leadership but do you have any confidence in Obama or Merkel to show true leadership? Sad but true, at this stage only Putin looks like he has any leadership qualities but I doubt many would agree with him.
Hopefully we in Australia can be spared the worst of what is to come for Europe. |
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Culprit
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| The media are in full swing, get the best video to shock and awe for ratings. What a bonanza for the media and now they are in their glee. The politicians have been thrown a lifeline to distract everyone from what is happening here. Terrorism is here to stay thanks to the softly softly approach on refugees. Australia has to close the door. We are an island which is hard to get too; not like Paris where you can walk through the front door. You cannot trust people from the Middle East and it's about time Australia said No. Send them to France, they have been in denial for years and the leftists have been amazingly silent since the well plan massacres have taken place. |
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David
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| thebaldfacts wrote: | | David wrote: | So even if we can conclusively prove that 1 in 1000 refugees is a terrorist, what can you possibly do about that? Do you block all of them from coming in? If so, you may as well apply the same logic to homegrown citizens and start deporting people randomly, in the hope that 1 out of 1000 people you're exiling have terroristic tendencies.
We need to do all we can to stop these attacks, but the answer isn't throwing innocent people under the bus. |
Well what is the answer then? Obviously holding hands and singing kumbaya. around the camp fire is not going to work.
The current policies have failed and may have contributed to what is happening know, so what are we to do? I fear that it is too late for Europe and this will become the new normal.
If the existing policies leads to hundreds of innocents being killed and many hundreds more being injured, how can we support these?
France is now at war with the Islamic State. Looks like more death and destruction to come. They have said they will be merciless.
I don't pretend to know the answers, but I doubt you do either.
We need leadership but do you have any confidence in Obama or Merkel to show true leadership? Sad but true, at this stage only Putin looks like he has any leadership qualities but I doubt many would agree with him.
Hopefully we in Australia can be spared the worst of what is to come for Europe. |
France was already at war with IS, effectively. Whether this leads to an escalation is another matter, but one wonders how much they or anyone else can do right now. Some kind of collaboration with the Russian bloc is probably necessary, though hopefully not at the expense of more innocents in Syria.
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HAL
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| What makes it so obvious? I observed two humanoids holding hands. |
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schuey07 
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| Culprit wrote: | | The media are in full swing, get the best video to shock and awe for ratings. What a bonanza for the media and now they are in their glee. The politicians have been thrown a lifeline to distract everyone from what is happening here. Terrorism is here to stay thanks to the softly softly approach on refugees. Australia has to close the door. We are an island which is hard to get too; not like Paris where you can walk through the front door. You cannot trust people from the Middle East and it's about time Australia said No. Send them to France, they have been in denial for years and the leftists have been amazingly silent since the well plan massacres have taken place. |
Agree 100%. |
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watt price tully
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| Culprit wrote: | | The media are in full swing, get the best video to shock and awe for ratings. What a bonanza for the media and now they are in their glee. The politicians have been thrown a lifeline to distract everyone from what is happening here. Terrorism is here to stay thanks to the softly softly approach on refugees. Australia has to close the door. We are an island which is hard to get too; not like Paris where you can walk through the front door. You cannot trust people from the Middle East and it's about time Australia said No. Send them to France, they have been in denial for years and the leftists have been amazingly silent since the well plan massacres have taken place. |
In times of crisis ( & at other times) the media amplify things like fear, drama & intensity which makes rational analysis difficult.
On the one hand you identify the media yet your reaction seems caught up in the visceral, the consequence of the shock & awe you were commenting on 
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