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Dave The Man 
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | | MJ23 wrote: | | E wrote: | i think you just noticed him more because he was wearing a helmet. It was a pretty typical Aish game if you ask me. A lot of what he (and Degoey for that matter) does goes unnoticed by a lot of folks here.
He will be a gem for us as he continues to build over consecutive pre-seasons. each year you will see improvement and then one day you'll notice that he is elite.
this year he will be solidly in our best 22 by the end of the season. |
+1. Been saying the same for a while |
He lacks badly for leg speed - I'm not sure whether that can be overcome, despite all his other qualities. Sometimes a player can deal with that by controlling the space around them (as, say, Luke Ball did) but that isn't (yet) Aish's style, either. |
Did not hurt Paul Licruia and Tarkyn Lockyer.
Guess Scharanberg is stuffed then as he not much faster |
Sam Mitchell says hi. |
I was trying to Prove that Speed is not everything like what the Quote Post was Saying
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RudeBoy
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| Dave The Man wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | | MJ23 wrote: | | E wrote: | i think you just noticed him more because he was wearing a helmet. It was a pretty typical Aish game if you ask me. A lot of what he (and Degoey for that matter) does goes unnoticed by a lot of folks here.
He will be a gem for us as he continues to build over consecutive pre-seasons. each year you will see improvement and then one day you'll notice that he is elite.
this year he will be solidly in our best 22 by the end of the season. |
+1. Been saying the same for a while |
He lacks badly for leg speed - I'm not sure whether that can be overcome, despite all his other qualities. Sometimes a player can deal with that by controlling the space around them (as, say, Luke Ball did) but that isn't (yet) Aish's style, either. |
Did not hurt Paul Licruia and Tarkyn Lockyer.
Guess Scharanberg is stuffed then as he not much faster |
Sam Mitchell says hi. |
I was trying to Prove that Speed is not everything like what the Quote Post was Saying |
Sam Mitchell says hi Dave.
FYI, Sam Mitchell is quite slow. |
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thompsoc
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Sam Mitchell is a freak.
Aish isn't.
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Cam 
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | Sam Mitchell says hi. |
Matt Priddis says "Cute."
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simon tonna
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| thompsoc wrote: | Sam Mitchell is a freak.
Aish isn't. |
dont underestimate him to early in his career thompsoc
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Pies4shaw 
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| Dave The Man wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | | MJ23 wrote: | | E wrote: | i think you just noticed him more because he was wearing a helmet. It was a pretty typical Aish game if you ask me. A lot of what he (and Degoey for that matter) does goes unnoticed by a lot of folks here.
He will be a gem for us as he continues to build over consecutive pre-seasons. each year you will see improvement and then one day you'll notice that he is elite.
this year he will be solidly in our best 22 by the end of the season. |
+1. Been saying the same for a while |
He lacks badly for leg speed - I'm not sure whether that can be overcome, despite all his other qualities. Sometimes a player can deal with that by controlling the space around them (as, say, Luke Ball did) but that isn't (yet) Aish's style, either. |
Did not hurt Paul Licruia and Tarkyn Lockyer.
Guess Scharanberg is stuffed then as he not much faster |
Yes, Dave, players do overcome it. It remains to be seen whether Aish will. |
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
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Aish Akbar?
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MJ23
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| simon tonna wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | Sam Mitchell is a freak.
Aish isn't. |
dont underestimate him to early in his career thompsoc |
Was going to ref Mitchell myself in response to leg speed - dont forget, Mitchell started slower than Aish. Not drafted 2000, rising star inn 2003.
Im not saying hes gonna be a Mitchell ( hope he will ) just saying I dont think leg speed will restrict him given his other strengths.
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HAL
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thompsoc
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| simon tonna wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | Sam Mitchell is a freak.
Aish isn't. |
dont underestimate him to early in his career thompsoc |
Aish is a good handy player.
Can't ever see him being an A grader or elite.g
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King Monkey
Joined: 15 Apr 2009
Location: On a journey to seek the scriptures of enlightenment....
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He's a footballer, not an athlete.
I'm not fretting when he has the ball in his hands, I'm looking upfield to see what's on offer, you can't do that with a lot of others in our side.
Firmly in our best 22 presently and will make the transition into a highly influential player over the years, IMO.
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MatthewBoydFanClub
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| thompsoc wrote: | Sam Mitchell is a freak.
Aish isn't. |
Was Greg Williams a freak too? We can keep going on and on.
Raw speed off a standing position is important, but fast decision making is equally important. |
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | Sam Mitchell is a freak.
Aish isn't. |
Was Greg Williams a freak too? We can keep going on and on.
Raw speed off a standing position is important, but fast decision making is equally important. |
Greg Williams was a definite freak.
Pity about his head injuries, not looking good for him.
The guy Aish played with a facial injury that was only a few weeks old.
Takes great guts to do that.
The guy looks too light and slow to me.
Yes he has good hands and raw guts, I just can't see him being a top player.
He might make 100 to 150 games player.
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RudeBoy
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| thompsoc wrote: | | BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | Sam Mitchell is a freak.
Aish isn't. |
Was Greg Williams a freak too? We can keep going on and on.
Raw speed off a standing position is important, but fast decision making is equally important. |
Greg Williams was a definite freak.
Pity about his head injuries, not looking good for him.
The guy Aish played with a facial injury that was only a few weeks old.
Takes great guts to do that.
The guy looks too light and slow to me.
Yes he has good hands and raw guts, I just can't see him being a top player.
He might make 100 to 150 games player. |
I'm not sure about him either, but I thought last Monday showed he might yet become a good player for us. It was his best game yet imo. |
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| BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | Sam Mitchell is a freak.
Aish isn't. |
Was Greg Williams a freak too? We can keep going on and on.
Raw speed off a standing position is important, but fast decision making is equally important. |
Tony Shaw was slow, Peter Daicos was glacial... Pendles is really slow in case you havent noticed..... Leg speed is so overrated. Every team needs a few speedsters to break lines and to stop the other team;s speedsters, but for the moast part, lack of speed wont hurt you.
Mind you, for Treloar, his speed is an added bow in his quiver of skills, so it certainly doesnt hurt.
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