#7 Adam Treloar
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eddiesmith 
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If we get rid of Treloar for pick 14 it would pass the Grundy deal as the dumbest thing the club has done this year with list management
If anyone thinks Treloar for 5 years at 900k was over the top, I’d love to know your opinion on 7 years at 1 million for a worse player... |
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think positive 
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| RudeBoy wrote: | Regardless of the rationales for attempting to offload a number of quality players, from a PR stand point, our club has handled this trade period disastrously. The next time anyone from our club mentions "side by side", the hypocrisy will be deafening.
We have managed to deeply damage our 'brand'.
I knew that some players would be off loaded after our pathetic performance in the Geelong Final, but the manner in which this has been mismanaged, coupled with the public acknowledgment of our mismanaged salary cap situation, is a deplorable situation. It smacks of some amateurish decision-making. Despite our lack of Premiership success, I thought our club was nevertheless being run in a professional manner.
Quite frankly, I'm embarrassed by the incompetence being displayed by our football department, which risks severely damaging the culture and spirit within our club. Hopefully, we recover quickly and put all of this mess behind us asap, but there is a serious risk that we could be in for years of mediocrity, stemming from a damaged team culture.
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Couldnt agree more. its not just the players who need to remember they are not bigger than the club. The optics of this whole debacle are terrible. Im so embarrassed, and quite frankly disappointed and disgusted at the way some of the players are being treated right now. No wonder no big names are queuing up to come to us, even if they think they can get paid overs!
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5 from the wing on debut
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| Mr Miyagi wrote: | What I’m trying to say is chillax, folks.
If Treloar and Stephenson are so good, why aren’t clubs falling over themselves to trade for them? Especially with us paying some of their wages? More to the story we’ll never ever know. |
If Treloar and Stephenson aren't so good, why are we paying them so much? |
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thesoretoothsayer
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| 5 from the wing on debut wrote: | | Mr Miyagi wrote: | What I’m trying to say is chillax, folks.
If Treloar and Stephenson are so good, why aren’t clubs falling over themselves to trade for them? Especially with us paying some of their wages? More to the story we’ll never ever know. |
If Treloar and Stephenson aren't so good, why are we paying them so much? |
Because we were doing whatever it took to keep players around so that we could win the 2019 or 2020 flag? |
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5 from the wing on debut
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| thesoretoothsayer wrote: | | 5 from the wing on debut wrote: | | Mr Miyagi wrote: | What I’m trying to say is chillax, folks.
If Treloar and Stephenson are so good, why aren’t clubs falling over themselves to trade for them? Especially with us paying some of their wages? More to the story we’ll never ever know. |
If Treloar and Stephenson aren't so good, why are we paying them so much? |
Because we were doing whatever it took to keep players around so that we could win the 2019 or 2020 flag? |
That's probably wishful thinking. I thought that you may have had a point but then when you take into account what has been done with Grundy later on, I think that it falls down. Grundy was re-signed with the club knowing that others would have to make way as a result. His contract directly leads to the diminishing of our chances of a flag in the near future. |
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sherrife 
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
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Fox Footy reporting that we're gonna have to pay 300k a year for FIVE YEARS to get the Dogs to take one of our best players.
This is atrocious.
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The Boy Who Cried Wolf
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| sherrife wrote: | Fox Footy reporting that we're gonna have to pay 300k a year for FIVE YEARS to get the Dogs to take one of our best players.
This is atrocious. |
Welcome to Collingwood
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Mr Miyagi
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Elephant in the room — Dogs are the only club showing any interest in Treloar and it comes with a massive caveat. This speaks volumes about Treloar. I’f he was so good, other clubs (particularly Essendon, Norf and Saints, would be right into him. But they’re not, and the only club has shown they only want him at an absolute bargain price.
If Treloar loves Collingwood so.much, then renegotiate the contract and take a front-ended pay cut. Walk the walk. $900k for a player who’s 1-2 years away from losing more pace because of his hammies, and is tough to coach, is an absolute joke and that’s on Treloar, his manager, and the club being dumb enough to bend over for them.
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The Boy Who Cried Wolf
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| Mr Miyagi wrote: | | Elephant in the room — Dogs are the only club showing any interest in Treloar and it comes with a massive caveat. This speaks volumes about Treloar. I’f he was so good, other clubs (particularly Essendon, Norf and Saints, would be right into him. But they’re not, and the only club has shown they only want him at an absolute bargain price. |
So who were the clowns who signed him up for five years on 900k per?
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Mr Miyagi
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| The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote: | | Mr Miyagi wrote: | | Elephant in the room — Dogs are the only club showing any interest in Treloar and it comes with a massive caveat. This speaks volumes about Treloar. I’f he was so good, other clubs (particularly Essendon, Norf and Saints, would be right into him. But they’re not, and the only club has shown they only want him at an absolute bargain price. |
So who were the clowns who signed him up for five years on 900k per? |
The clowns who survived the club review. Not bucks, but the list management and board who sign off on everything. I reckon give bucks more say, after all he didn’t want Wells and Mayne and had a blue with Gubby in the corridor in front of everyone about it. So bucks obviously has more sense than our list management and board.
Club needs to sit everyone in the same room, players, managers, list managers, all of them, and tell them bluntly do they want team success, or do they want to act like individuals who score mega million deals that makes team success more difficult and results in the situation we’re in now?? What Geelong did years ago (but I reckon despite players agreeing to pay cuts for team success, there were a lot of under the table deals going on). Maybe that’s what happened, and JDG asked why Treloar should get $900k when he has more upside.
Right now at Collingwood we have too many individuals who overrate and overprice themselves. And that’s as much the club’s fault for being so scared to lose Grundy etc. |
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warburton lad
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If, if, if we are expected to pay $1.5 million towards the Treloar wage, they can pony up with Pick 14 plus their first rounder in 2021. Period.
If they say no- walk away from the deal- Treloar is still wanted by the playing group and is still a very fine player... Don't give Phillips away for peanuts to Hawks
Also, Stephenson for Pick 11 and a future second rounder or "No, thanks...!"
Swallow what dignity we still retain and draw a line in the sand with all future wage negotiations...
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sherrife
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I don't understand why we didn't just sit the players down in a room, show them the maths, and ask them - especially the best paid - to take a cut for the sake of team cohesion and continuity. A few percent from each player shouldn't be a big deal, surely.
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eddiesmith
Lets get ready to Rumble
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| The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote: | | Mr Miyagi wrote: | | Elephant in the room — Dogs are the only club showing any interest in Treloar and it comes with a massive caveat. This speaks volumes about Treloar. I’f he was so good, other clubs (particularly Essendon, Norf and Saints, would be right into him. But they’re not, and the only club has shown they only want him at an absolute bargain price. |
So who were the clowns who signed him up for five years on 900k per? |
The same clowns who signed a ruckman to a $1 million a year for 7 year deal which has completely £$%$ed our cap. A player who’d be lucky to get 5 years at 750k now. |
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slangman
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| sherrife wrote: | | I don't understand why we didn't just sit the players down in a room, show them the maths, and ask them - especially the best paid - to take a cut for the sake of team cohesion and continuity. A few percent from each player shouldn't be a big deal, surely. |
The players are not loyal to Collingwood.
To them it’s a job and like most jobs it’s about money.
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Mr Miyagi
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| slangman wrote: | | sherrife wrote: | | I don't understand why we didn't just sit the players down in a room, show them the maths, and ask them - especially the best paid - to take a cut for the sake of team cohesion and continuity. A few percent from each player shouldn't be a big deal, surely. |
The players are not loyal to Collingwood.
To them it’s a job and like most jobs it’s about money. |
Yeah I’vevbeen saying this all year. Geelong did it, and the players put team first and some took pay cuts... and guess what they won flags! |
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