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Wokko Pisces

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:36 am
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https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2018/aug/21/liberal-leadership-dutton-turnbull-energy

Turnbull called the spill, which means he thinks he has the numbers now but won't have them later. We could have a Dutton Government today.

Edit. He survived. We all know how these Shenanigans end though.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:56 am
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Dutton resigns as home affairs minister and moves to the back bench to prepare for the next challenge
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:28 am
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I know Australian politics is unstable, but I did not see this coming at all. Who on earth in the Liberal Party would be deluded enough to think that Dutton is electable? Or am I the one who's deluded and people can't get enough of jackboots?

What's clear is that the party doesn't like Turnbull.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:36 am
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Dutton. LOL!

I'm laughing but a little bit concerned, too, because I thought Abbott was a total joke and he got elected.

And in answer to you, David, yes I think you are deluded and there is a whole lot of people out there who want more jackboots.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:01 pm
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Abbott and his little band of gollum's have just shot the LNP in the stomach.

The only way forward is if Turnbull steps down and doesn't contest the leadership, clearing the way for Julie Bishop to go against Dutton.

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^ Not a bad idea, but my impression is that they hate Bishop as much as they hate Turnbull. I have a feeling this is only going to go one way...
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It's a stupid act of self vandalism. Even though Labor has been ahead in the polls, Turnbull has consistently been ahead of Shorten as preferred PM. By continually undermining him and compromising his ability to lead the party they've caused him to be an ineffective leader and have just given Labor a free kick from the goal square.

If they go down the Dutton path the party will get what it deserves, a serious enema at the election. Hopefully it's the fecal matter that's flushed out, not the good ones.

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^ Couldn't agree more. As disappointing as Turnbull has been, I still think he could have been a good Liberal prime minister if he'd been allowed to be. But ultimately contemporary politics seems to be more about interpersonal grudges and factional power plays than any meaningful vision for the country's future.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:38 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
Abbott and his little band of gollum's have just shot the LNP in the stomach.

The only way forward is if Turnbull steps down and doesn't contest the leadership, clearing the way for Julie Bishop to go against Dutton.


Don't let Tannin hear you mention Bishop and Leadership in the same sentence.

FWIW I think this is only round 1, Dutton didn't call this spill, Turnbull did and only managed to scrape a win. Shows that as usual Turnbull is really good at party politics but terrible at leadership. He's already lost the electorate and has now demonstrably lost half the party room without Dutton even trying to pull in more votes like they do with a normal challenge.

Turnbull is despised by the Conservative right, I know a few planning a scorched Earth vote for Shorten just to get rid of Turnbull. Still think Dutton would be better off waiting until the election and becoming Opposition Leader.
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Turnbull, Dutton, Shorten etc etc... they're all gutless maggots!

We need a Trumpinator kinda guy... but ...... we got shit.

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Glad we can agree on something, Skids. Wink (The first sentence, at any rate!)

Hard to see how Dutton doesn’t become PM now. If so, hope he gets smashed so hard in the election that we never hear from the scheming would-be Mussolini potato head ever again.

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^

Meanwhile, Albo would have thrown the toys out of the cot and be having a full blown tantrum, cos any chance he had of rolling Shorten to take the Labor leadership before the next election just got smashed.

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^ And I'm kind of fine with that. I supported him in the initial leadership contest with Shorten, and have never liked Bill much, but honestly Albo just seems like more of the same brain-numbing robotic Labor leadership, and really can't see what he brings to the table. I'm okay with the idea of Shorten being PM now.
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David wrote:
Glad we can agree on something, Skids. Wink (The first sentence, at any rate!)

Hard to see how Dutton doesn’t become PM now. If so, hope he gets smashed so hard in the election that we never hear from the scheming would-be Mussolini potato head ever again.


apparently there is a small question over Dutton's status as an MP with a company he owns taking direct subsidies from the government, possibly in breach of the Constitution, which is a matter for the High Court. (wonder who leaked that one)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:07 pm
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^

I heard about that yesterday, apparently something has changed only recently that now potentially means it's unconstitutional. Can't remember what.

Saw a bloke on The Project last night explaining it, said it was part of an investigation into ministers in general, said there was no leak.

Edit, here's an article explaining it

https://theconversation.com/explainer-is-peter-dutton-ineligible-to-sit-in-parliament-101840

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