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How many Syrian refugees should Australia take? |
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52% |
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A few thousand |
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Over ten thousand |
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As many as possible |
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Culprit
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We have just announced a crackdown on welfare recipients and the very next day announced that we are increasing our quota of welfare recipients. |
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Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
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David wrote: |
Quote: | “London is generally a safe place to travel, however precautions are needed when entering areas mainly populated by Indians, Pakistanis and black people,” it reads.
“We advise tourists not to go out alone at night, and females always to be accompanied by another person when travelling.” |
Indians are mostly Hindu and many Africans are Christian. Where does that fit in your "Muslims are terrible" hypothesis? Or has that always been a smokescreen for something else? |
How silly of me, didn't realise the Hindus and Christians were committing all the attacks _________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. |
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Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
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Culprit
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Best thing about the South American refugees is they do know how to cook up Cocaine in large batches. |
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Jezza
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Skids wrote: | http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/muslim-migrant-ban-backed-by-almost-half-australians-poll-shows/news-story/fe65dc9cc7018e545539e32b11029385
The majority of Australians want gays to be able to marry AND they want muslim immigration to cease.... pleba what?
Forty-nine per cent of people surveyed in an Essential poll agreed that Muslims should be blocked from the country while 40 per cent disagreed with the idea. There was 60 per cent support for the ban among coalition voters, 40 per cent from Labor and a surprising 34 per cent from Greens voters. |
The actual data of these results is shown in the link below.
http://www.essentialvision.com.au/ban-on-muslim-immigration
http://www.essentialvision.com.au/reasons-for-supporting-ban _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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49% isn't a majority, but it's certainly uncomfortably close to one. Very dispiriting.
(It's funny how democracy works, though, sometimes – a majority of Australians support euthanasia and likely capital punishment too, yet those issues aren't even on the table for discussion. And who knows what the figures would be for questions that pollsters haven't thought to ask like "should child molesters be tortured?" and "should the government stop taxing people?") _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace
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Deja Vu
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Bucks5 wrote: | This is what Donald Trump Jnr thinks.....
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If I had a bowl of Skittles and told you there was an epidemic of skittle-related deaths, would you look to do something about it or stand by your 2nd amendment right to have skittles? _________________ http://youtu.be/hvtdbfI1sqQ |
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David
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^ Yes, that does come to mind somewhat. Also, the rates of domestic violence within relationships or driving-related deaths. The more you look, the more potentially lethal bowls of skittles there are. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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David wrote: | ^ Yes, that does come to mind somewhat. Also, the rates of domestic violence within relationships or driving-related deaths. The more you look, the more potentially lethal bowls of skittles there are. |
Feminists used the same analogy aimed at men a few years ago.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-09-20/donald-trump-jr-s-skittles-comparison-used-to-be-a-feminist-meme
The thing is that there are Islamic terrorists embedding themselves in refugee/migrant populations to attack the west and terrorism is about more than your chance to die, it's about our whole society and culture being changed. Until we can figure out how to weed out those guys from the huge moving population of military aged men then the best thing to do is to put a stop to it. |
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David
I dare you to try
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"Until we figure it out" is just a lame cop out without specifying exactly what needs to be figured out, how it might be done and approximately how long it will take. The way Trump and others have used it is effectively the same thing as a shrug of the shoulders. It's meaningless.
re: the skittles, I think both memes are dumb. The feminist one actually makes me angry too – it basically says that treating men with prejudice is acceptable. But it's no less dumb than the anti-refugee one. Under your logic, why shouldn't women treat all men as potential rapists and DV perpetrators until "we figure out how to stop" rape and domestic violence? Doesn't sound great, does it.
I oppose both approaches, but I'm not sure how you can think one form of profiling is OK and another isn't. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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David
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Perhaps "The American Conservative" can put it better than I can:
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/racial-profiling-is-a-bad-counterterrorism-strategy/
Quote: | Many of Trump’s proposals, including profiling Muslims and infiltrating Muslim communities, were attempted in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks. The reason most of those policies were abandoned had little to do with “PC culture” and a lot more to do with the high costs and poor results of the programs. That is, law enforcement has come to discourage profiling for the same reason intelligence services have disavowed torture: it simply doesn’t work—neither in theory nor in practice. Donald Trump has been ill-served by his rogues’ gallery of national-security and law-enforcement supporters who take a contrarian stance on these issues, as would be the American people if these supporters were allowed to implement their policies. |
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Wokko
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"Racial" profiling has never been discussed, the author has discredited himself and if you look at the name may just be a tad biased. |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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Where did Racial profiling get never been discussed the author has discredited himself and if you look at the name may be a tad biased? |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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David wrote: | 49% isn't a majority, but it's certainly uncomfortably close to one. Very dispiriting.
(It's funny how democracy works, though, sometimes – a majority of Australians support euthanasia and likely capital punishment too, yet those issues aren't even on the table for discussion. And who knows what the figures would be for questions that pollsters haven't thought to ask like "should child molesters be tortured?" and "should the government stop taxing people?") |
You got a cite for those stats?
Euthanasia is a bit like the republic debate, the majority might support it in principle but disagree on how it would work. If you had a poll on euthanasia and asked the question "Do you think the government should have the right to force you to prolong your life and therefore make you suffer in pain against your will?" you'd get a 100% NO vote and therefore a 100% vote for euthanasia. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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