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swoop42 
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
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Abbott needs another terrorist attack with Australian victims and he'll be set.
Harsh but you just know he'd milk it for all it's worth.
P.S-Anyone watch that doco on Putin the other night?
Blowing up buildings and blaming it on Muslims would be a step to far even for him though.
Him Abbott not Putin.
He certainly orchestrated it.
Feel sorry for the people of Russia. It's seemingly nothing more than a mafia state.
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Tannin 
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Don't be too sure, Swoop. Abbott has already done his very best to stir up resentment and trouble so that he can "heroically" fight it. An attempt to repeal the anti-discrimination laws; heavy-handed military interventions at every chance; offensive new detention laws; this idiotic Border Farce trying to have armed quasi-military troops in black uniforms stopping random citizens and demanding ID papers; borderline racist remarks at every opportunity ... what more can he do to invite an attack, short of setting the dynamite himself?
It's his only chance of retaining government. And he knows it. Be afraid.
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David 
I dare you to try
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John Wren
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| Tannin wrote: | Don't be too sure, Swoop. Abbott has already done his very best to stir up resentment and trouble so that he can "heroically" fight it. An attempt to repeal the anti-discrimination laws; heavy-handed military interventions at every chance; offensive new detention laws; this idiotic Border Farce trying to have armed quasi-military troops in black uniforms stopping random citizens and demanding ID papers; borderline racist remarks at every opportunity ... what more can he do to invite an attack, short of setting the dynamite himself?
It's his only chance of retaining government. And he knows it. Be afraid. |
this frightens me too.
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watt price tully 
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The Mad Misogynist Monks captains call - the gift that keeps on giving:
1. Border Force police action Operation Fortitude a case of uniformed insanity
Mark Kenny, Sydney Morning Herald online
2. If Border Force acts like this in Melbourne, what do they do offshore?
Jeff Sparrow, The Guardian
3. Borderforce can assure you that fear is a great motivator. Ask anyone with a 46% rating in the polls.Wait did we say that out loud?
First dog on the moon, the Guardian
4. F is for farce: how Australian Border Force united the nation against it
Lenore Taylor, The Guardian online
5. Australian Border Force under fire from MPs after campaign of fear in Melbourne
Malcolm Farr, News limited
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Wokko 
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Checking papers based on ethnicity or just a general stop and search dragnet? I don't generally like all the Abbott = Nazi shit from the progressives, but these idiots may as well have come out in brown shirts.
Goes to show how thin the line is between democracy and tyranny, we really are at the whim of authority. No armed revolution is coming if things go wrong here either. Just happy to see that people will still get out and protest, I'd begun to think that we'd become complacent sheep. |
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partypie
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| Abbott is going to have to do something about Peter Dutton. He was a pathetic health minister, which was the start of Abbott's problems in the opinion polls, and now this. We deserve better government |
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Culprit 
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| Social Media for all the negative also has positives and this is one. The negative reaction by the public and even strong Liberal supporters will hurt Captain Abbott. |
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Culprit
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| swoop42 wrote: | Abbott needs another terrorist attack with Australian victims and he'll be set.
Harsh but you just know he'd milk it for all it's worth.
P.S-Anyone watch that doco on Putin the other night?
Blowing up buildings and blaming it on Muslims would be a step to far even for him though.
Him Abbott not Putin.
He certainly orchestrated it.
Feel sorry for the people of Russia. It's seemingly nothing more than a mafia state. |
They are provoking Muslim fanatics every way possible to get this done. 100 dead or so Australians will be OK as long s we can get reelected. |
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Tannin
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| Wokko wrote: | | Checking papers based on ethnicity or just a general stop and search dragnet? I don't generally like all the Abbott = Nazi shit from the progressives, but these idiots may as well have come out in brown shirts. Goes to show how thin the line is between democracy and tyranny, we really are at the whim of authority. |
That's because you are a bit slow on the uptake ol' son.
More astute observers have been pointing out the disturbing, sometimes downright spooky similarities between Abbott and the Nazis for years. But that's OK. You got there eventually and that's the important thing.
It is indeed a very thin line between democracy and tyranny and, as we have seen numerous times now, Abbott and his goon squad cross it with disturbing regularity. They honestly don't seem to understand what they are doing and why it is so dangerous. They certainly lack the wit to see the obvious stark parallels between themselves and Hitler's mob during the 1930s: the hysterical propaganda, the flags, the big, simple lie endlessly repeated, the vindictive rooting out of any public person who fails the subservience test, the demonisation of a helpless racial minority, the obsessive secrecy, the love of uniforms and military force, the urge to cut down any law the instant there is a minor legal hiccup in their plans, their urge to gain control of any media outlet not supporting them and cripple it or shut it down (ABC, SBS), the peculiar ability to pursue a "vital" policy goal vigourously and relentlessly (the "budget emergency") until it is suddenly no longer convenient and at that point, with the goal no closer than it ever was, drop it and loudly pretend it never mattered, the barely veiled contempt for evidence, the almost religious respect for flags and uniforms and para-military forces with at the same time open contempt for public officials who uphold the rule of law ... it's all there, but they can't see it in themselves.
It's true, they can't see it in themselves, they really can't. They just don't get it. Their government's slide into a modern-day parody of the government of the National Socialist German Workers' Party 70 years ago isn't so much to do with genuine evil as it is to do with deep stupidity. They aren't looking and sounding and acting like the Nazis in the 1930s because they admire them (they don't) or want to emulate them (they don't) or think that they were heros (they don't). They are looking and sounding and acting like the Nazis in the 1930s because they are too stupid to understand the difference between vigourous debate and dishonest propaganda, or the difference between para-military force and the rule of law, or the difference between a public official obeying the law whether or not the Party likes it, and that same public obeying the Party whether or not the law allows it. They just can't grasp it. They simply are not bright enough to figure themselves out.
On face value, they are different to the National Socialist German Workers' Party of 1935 because, although both act the same way, the present mob are more stupid than evil; it's not that they want to incite violence and create a repressive regime to deal with it, they are only treading that path because they lack the brains and intellectual honesty to realise what they are doing.
Some people on the left honestly believe that Abbott's far-right mob is a conspiracy to re-ignite the horrors of the 1930s. No. They don't want that. It's not an evil conspiracy, it's a stupid fuckup of almighty proportions.
Is this the difference between the NSGWP and Abbott's mob? The former acted as they did out of evil intent and the latter out of mere pig-headed stupidity? No, I don't believe so. Abbott's mob are evil, sure, but (in the main) it's a small-minded petty evil; in the big picture of things they are just astonishingly inept on the one hand and extraordinarily lacking in honest self-assessment skills on the other.
But is this really different? I suspect not. I think our mistake here lies not in our understanding of Abbott's petty, banal goon squad but in our understanding of their right-wing role models in the 1930s. Hitler's goons weren't the sadistic jackbooted monsters of our dreams, not in the main. They were ordinary people. Ordinary small-minded, ill-educated, petty bullies with delusions of their own importance who got carried away with their power and their lies and wound up .... well, you know how they would up. But they started as ordinary not-too-bright people who lied their way into government, and they operated as a democratically elected legitimate government for a full decade before their end.
Take home message: don't think that Hockey is like Goering, that Pyne is like Himmler, or that Abbot is like Hitler. They aren't. He isn't. At least he's not like the Hitler you have in your head. Think instead that Hitler was rather like Abbott. Self-obsessed, arrogant, craving publicity, erratic, disarmingly pleasant and apparently reasonable in person - and above all else, a very ordinary, almost banal man who lacks the wit to understand the inevitable results of his own actions.
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Tannin
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Former National Party centre-right independent MP speaks
Tony Windsor has no doubt that some in the Abbott government hope "that something goes wrong domestically". The Border Farce yesterday was no mistake, but a "deliberate agenda to create fear in the community", Windsor said. "I've got no doubt that some of these people in Abbott's government hope that something goes wrong domestically. That they can taunt a Muslim into doing something so that they can say that we're the only ones that can protect you, the Labor party are too weak to protect you, vote for us."
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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| Abbott also lacks the ability to inspire a stadium full of people with a rousing speech so I think we're alright. I can't imagine anyone in the LNP with the charisma to pull that off and the NSDAP had at least 3. |
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Tannin
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^ I agree. Well, sort of agree. It's not about stadia crowds these days (they were just the way to get to the maximum number of people with the technology of the day). These days its about wearing funny hats and getting five second grabs on the TV news every night.
But your broader point, yes. They lack the ability to inspire enough hatred. Mind you, if they can fluke a bomb in Collins Street or a shooting in Rundle Mall, they'll be in clover.
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Abbott tried to make a reassuring statement today!
He said, No Australian will be stopped in the street and asked to show their visa details"!
The ABF released a statement on the operation, saying it will speak
"with any individual we cross paths with"
and warning officers will be checking people's visa details.
This troubles me (& not just because the man is an habitual liar) but because under the current law it clearly states that no-one has the right to randomly stop me in the street and ask for ID but Abbott's Broader Farce is apparently above the laws of this land (or maybe they don't know what they are)!
Under Australian Law even ASIO isn't allowed to randomly stop people in the street and demand proof of ID!
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I am a citizen, but I don't have a visa!
In my defence, I wasn't aware I needed one ("Operational Secrecy"?)!
What do I say to Abbott's Broader Farce if I haven't got my pass-port/visa (or sTeam Australia Party membership badge) about my person when they stop me???
If I don't produce a visa will I be denied access to a lawyer and held incommunicado till I'm shipped off to Manus island to await a review of my citizen ship and and my visa application to be processed?
I'm off to Melbourne tomorrow to look at a gear-box for my truck.
I think I'll stay over night, visit the Australian Embassy and apply for a VISA first thing Monday morning.
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Culprit
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