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jackcass Cancer



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:25 pm
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Lone Ranger wrote:
Sidebottoms worst game of his career last night. His disposal was atrocious


Isn't that funny, I actually thought it was his best game for weeks.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:29 pm
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jackcass wrote:
Lone Ranger wrote:
Sidebottoms worst game of his career last night. His disposal was atrocious


Isn't that funny, I actually thought it was his best game for weeks.


What's his trade value?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:30 pm
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didick wrote:
jackcass wrote:
Lone Ranger wrote:
Sidebottoms worst game of his career last night. His disposal was atrocious


Isn't that funny, I actually thought it was his best game for weeks.


What's his trade value?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:31 pm
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didick wrote:
jackcass wrote:
Lone Ranger wrote:
Sidebottoms worst game of his career last night. His disposal was atrocious


Isn't that funny, I actually thought it was his best game for weeks.


What's his trade value?


Why would we consider it? For all his foibles he's still very important to our performances.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:31 pm
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didick wrote:
jackcass wrote:
Lone Ranger wrote:
Sidebottoms worst game of his career last night. His disposal was atrocious


Isn't that funny, I actually thought it was his best game for weeks.


What's his trade value?

Zero, because we won't consider moving him.

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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:34 pm
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He was plainly Collingwood's second best on the ground last night. Swan, him, daylight.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:34 pm
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Honestly, who is on the Pies selection panel? Nicks Bulletin Board posters could pick a better team.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:38 pm
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Honestly, who is on the Pies selection panel? Nicks Bulletin Board posters could pick a better team.

Not so sure. Some of us wanted White and Karnezis to play and Marsh to be dropped.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:23 pm
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Well, White should have played - and his brilliant first half in the VFL again today has just confirmed that. Marsh should never have been under consideration to be dropped.
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He was plainly Collingwood's second best on the ground last night. Swan, him, daylight.


Pretty much my thoughts although I'd probably have Swan, daylight, Sidey, Crisp.
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Pies4shaw wrote:
Well, White should have played - and his brilliant first half in the VFL again today has just confirmed that. Marsh should never have been under consideration to be dropped.


Agree on both counts although with the benefit of hindsight Moore has had his best game to date. Even so, think White would have given more.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:43 pm
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jackcass wrote:
qldmagpie67 wrote:
Rude I love your positivity mate. I've been on the band wagon for ages it's all about the future to
But riddle me this please
Let's take Sidey
3yrs ago he was a elite user if the football. He hit targets from 30/40/50m lace out with such regularity it was scarily good.
Now he can't hit a guy with a kick more than 20m away more than 50% of the time. Last night 9 times he got called play on play on because he didn't kick it 15m
Who has coached that elite skill out of him ?
3yrs ago he efficiency was in the mid to high 70% range now it's just over 50%
How does a player go from that to this ?
I've never been more disappointed in a game as I was last night.
We played a ordinary team who didn't have there biggest and best forward, who lost 3 players by mid way through the final term and we still can't run away with a game (reminds me the Suns game 2014)
We have stalled the past 18 months.
I will happily concede we are better at staying in games. You can't doubt the effort the players give they try their guts out no doubt. 5 losses by under 2 goals against sides all earmarked to be finalists this year proves we have the talent.
But is Bucks the man to get the best out of this group ?


I've never been in the camp that considered Sidebottom's disposal elite. To my way of thinking it has always been a cause of great frustration and likely the only reason he'll never become elite.

I think the drop off in efficiency is more a consequence of the changed experience and age profile of the team rather than any change in Sidey's performance. Players like Beams, Thomas, Shaw and Wellingham had all emerged in the same group as Sidey and just made him look better than he actually was.


Jack that's a very valid point I hadn't considered. He is an undoubted talent and I think that's were my ultimate frustration comes from. I expect so much of him maybe to much and I should dial that back to he's just a ok player and judge him as such.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:52 pm
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On a side note, more points than goals and it's been that way all year. Turn that around and we win more games. It's self preservation mode now, perform or your on the trade table or the trash table.
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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:54 pm
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^^^ Pendles noted on SEN today that in the close losses, Collingwood has kicked 40.77.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:55 pm
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Culprit wrote:
On a side note, more points than goals and it's been that way all year. Turn that around and we win more games. It's self preservation mode now, perform or your on the trade table or the trash table.


Been like that as long as I can Remember

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