people need to relax a little...

[derkd]

Ok, a few deep breaths please people.....


The loss today - yes, disappointing. Full credit to Melbourne...they just wanted it more and big congrats to them a club that has been a big black hole has some light.



Collingwood, we have lost a few in a row (6 now, i think) in that has been some very difficult games, Hawthorn, Freo, West Coast, Port. all of which we have been in with a shot.


I think a few of the younger players the likes of - Crisp, Langdon, Frost, Elliott,Witts and Grundy may have just run out of steam. It happens. Do we need to sack the coach? would you have wanted to sack him when we were 8 and 3? Is Buckley the reason we are where we are? ..... And if you still argue for sacking him my question is still who do you replace him with?

My greater question would be even if we could make the finals, would we want too? what is to be gained? first round exit? experience? is that really needed in this day and age? remember that in 2002 we made a Grand final with almost no experience.

My argument is, We have a glimpse of how good we can be. We are still a young side, what is to be gained from jumping the gun and sacking the coach? (unless you have a unbelievable chance at say a Clarkson). go to the draft and trade table this year and keep building.

Yes we have some dead wood that needs to be cleaned out. the likes of White, and i am still not sold on Blair, Young (injuries have robbed him). We may lose Mathew Scharenberg, shame, but as has been discussed in other threads could have currency.

I get this sense a few too many on here hold to the fact that we have to be top four every year. It is a journey and it will take time.

[The_Staunton]

Scott Burns?

[John Wren]

calling for calm on nick's, that's like telling your missus she is overacting and to calm down.

[inxs88]

don't sugar coat what was a pathetic effort today!

[What'sinaname]

If deadwood = Buckley then I agree with you

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[Seth]

People are sick and tired of listening to the excuses now. Today was the icing on the cake. Bucks has had 4 years and where finished 4, 8, 11 and now bottom 6 likely.

Yes we have had some close games lately but couldnt we win at least one of those close ones, because he doesnt know ho, he doesnt know how to make a hard decision and 'roll the dice' and take a chance. Those close games were each a mirror image each week and you just knew they would not get up.

He is a great talker and im sure he is a great bloke to these kids but he has had his chance now and we need to see improvement, not just going back into the same old shit.

Today was putrid coached by a f***wit who makes strange decisions on who he takes out, plays as a sub.

And lets get back to our recruiting, midgets everywhere who cant take a contested mark yet teams we play outmark us all day. And I love how we always play teams or players into form every *&^*(&%$% week.

Youve got some tough decisions to make Ed!!

[Pies4shaw]

I'm not quite sure if the reference to Scharenberg is enough to call this the 11th Shazza thread of the day but you've certainly managed to speculate on his future and trade currency, so it's not without possibilities. I'll throw it to the judges: JW?

[RudeBoy]

I'm not worried about losing 6 games in a row, as the first 3 were brave and almost heroic performances against the very best teams. However, our last 2 defeats have been terrible against other very young teams. We cannot blame youth for these losses. Clearly we look exhausted, so maybe the players are being trained too hard? I don't know, but we've lost all zip and vigour. Perhaps the whole team should be given a few days off with no training, just to freshen up. Also, the on-going double ruck combo is killing us as neither of our rucks are having much impact. Better to play just one.

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[John Wren]

once in a blue moon rings true today. a touch under 38k turned up which was poor. we hadn't lost to this mob in the last 11 outings (since 2007). our worst performance of the year by far. we simply looked cooked and couldn't sustain any semblance of pressure.

six losses in a row is never great for any club, coach or supporter but, as you suggest, it's not the end of the world. today doesn't diminish my belief that we will be there or thereabouts in the next few years.

[John Wren]