The Westpac Centre Vortex!

[inxs88]

Do you ever get the feeling that virtually every player who steps into the Westpac Centre seems struck by the "disposal disease". You could argue the following represent our core elite players yet even they seem plagued by the "vortex":

1. Sidebottom: dinky, lateral kicks. Can't hit a target lace up from 30 met.
2. Adams: ditto
3. Cloke: 50:50 chance for goal from inside 30 met. & 60:40 from outside 30 metres
4. Swan: the greatest scrubber kick of all time (love him though)
5. Kennedy: new nickname after Bulldog's game "mong kick man". At 175cm he needs to be elite in everything to make it
6. White: can't kick straight
7. Blair: can't kick over a jam tin (35 metres at best)
8. C Young: we recruited what we thought was an elite gun yet can't hit a target from 40 metres when "hamstring free"
9. N.Brown: debuting for next James Bond movie "SKYBALL"
10. Greenwood: a 6/10 at best kick
11. Marley W: cannot hit targets on the "kickout" or in general play
12. Sinclair: ditto
13. Ramsay: no left side at all and serviceable on right at best
14. Toovey: should be court marshalled for his offensive delivery
15. Seedsman: long kick fair but finesse kicking awful

I sometimes wonder just what "type" of drills we do and how often. This biomechanist employed over the Summer must be about as effective as Bronwyn Bishop at a budget meeting!

[Monco Matt]

I say no. They all had a disease well before stepping into the Holden Center. I would say that they had the man flu coming in which develops into salmonella during their careers and will become full blown influenza on their way out. Just look at Cloke & Swanny, getting worse every year.

[Albert Parker]

hasn't farked up Varcoe....yet!

[Dangles]

Better get James Manson down there to sort them out.

But seriously, you'd think being a good kick on both sides of the body would be a prerequisite for getting drafted by any AFL club.

[Hiss]

It is commonly known as the corporate death spiral. Hardened tough players with heaps of potential get caught up in the silver spoon rich mans paradise where resources are on tap, admiration and media attention is over exposed, then follows the overinflated ego's, delusional sense of self worth, and a consequential lack of killer instinct vanishes.

The rich mans club death spiral I call it. It has the ingredients that destroyed Melbourne and Carlton.

When Collingwood was based at Victoria Park, players were reminded daily of the working class struggle and magnificent history of our Club.

Corporate Collingwood under the current business leadership has lost the grunt and hunger for success. They deny and shun our past.

You can't spend PR money to spin your way out of our current on field failure. This is what Carlton are now discovering.

Unless we change the culture of our Board and football department, we will continue in this death spiral I am sad to say.

[think positive]

[Raw Hammer]

I agree with all assessments except for Rsmsay. His right foot is superb. The game vs Carlton stands out where he was laser passing tits out daisy cutters to Cloke on the lead from 45m away running off half back.

[Raw Hammer]

Further, your assessment of 15/22 players is why on Saturday I simply declared to my friends that we need to start the personnel changeover NOW. That is, select a poor kick senior player, and replace with new. For example, replace Toovey with Scharenberg, and so on and so forth. This team is bereft of foot skill on every line. It WILL NOT win a flag unless it upgrades it's poorer skilled players, and it needs to start now...

[CarringbushCigar]

Wellers, Beamsy, Harry, Daisy, Dawesy and Heater say hello !

[Pies4shaw]

[Pies4shaw]

[thompsoc]

It is hard to perfect the modern game when you are a crap kick.
With kicking I would settle for OK to Good.

[Raw Hammer]

Oops...too much data.

[Raw Hammer]

[Pies4shaw]

I had in mind, eg, Ramsay, Broomhead, Oxley, Scharenberg, Langdon, Moore, Maynard and Abbott. Adams, Greenwood and Crisp were brought in for a different purpose (getting hold of the ball - and stopping the opposition getting hold of the ball - at stoppages). The other lads are still taking baby steps. White was brought in out of necessity, rather than choice, I suspect.