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Doc63
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| doriswilgus wrote: | | Put it this way.If Nathan Buckley wasn't a champion Collingwood footballer and a favouite of Eddie's,would he still be coach today,given his record over the last four years?I think the answer to that is no. |
He wouldn't have got the job in the first place!!
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Mr. Burns
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| CarringbushCigar wrote: | Is this a performance based industry?
Are we a football club that demands the highest quality people to drive us forward.
FFS - this is 4 consecutive years of no improvement, after a 2 year apprenticeship.
What is it going to take?
5 or 6 years of failing to live up to expectations? |
How long has it taken Hardwick to get Richmond to to the position they are in now?
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The_Staunton 
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| Mr. Burns wrote: | | CarringbushCigar wrote: | Is this a performance based industry?
Are we a football club that demands the highest quality people to drive us forward.
FFS - this is 4 consecutive years of no improvement, after a 2 year apprenticeship.
What is it going to take?
5 or 6 years of failing to live up to expectations? |
How long has it taken Hardwick to get Richmond to to the position they are in now? |
He took the worst list in the comp, not a double grand final side?
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Dave The Man 
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thompsoc
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I thought the rant from lenny20 was great.
Can we copy and paste it on to here?
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Mr. Burns
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Location: Springfield Nuclear Power Plant
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| The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | CarringbushCigar wrote: | Is this a performance based industry?
Are we a football club that demands the highest quality people to drive us forward.
FFS - this is 4 consecutive years of no improvement, after a 2 year apprenticeship.
What is it going to take?
5 or 6 years of failing to live up to expectations? |
How long has it taken Hardwick to get Richmond to to the position they are in now? |
He took the worst list in the comp, not a double grand final side? |
Rubbish. He has had the same side for well over 5 years and now they are playing well. FWIW I think Buckleys position should be reviewed.
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The_Staunton
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| Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | CarringbushCigar wrote: | Is this a performance based industry?
Are we a football club that demands the highest quality people to drive us forward.
FFS - this is 4 consecutive years of no improvement, after a 2 year apprenticeship.
What is it going to take?
5 or 6 years of failing to live up to expectations? |
How long has it taken Hardwick to get Richmond to to the position they are in now? |
He took the worst list in the comp, not a double grand final side? |
Rubbish. He has had the same side for well over 5 years and now they are playing well. FWIW I think Buckleys position should be reviewed. |
Not sure how it's rubbish, he took over the team from Terry Wallace that was said to be the worst list since Fitzroy
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Mr. Burns
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| The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | CarringbushCigar wrote: | Is this a performance based industry?
Are we a football club that demands the highest quality people to drive us forward.
FFS - this is 4 consecutive years of no improvement, after a 2 year apprenticeship.
What is it going to take?
5 or 6 years of failing to live up to expectations? |
How long has it taken Hardwick to get Richmond to to the position they are in now? |
He took the worst list in the comp, not a double grand final side? |
Rubbish. He has had the same side for well over 5 years and now they are playing well. FWIW I think Buckleys position should be reviewed. |
Not sure how it's rubbish, he took over the team from Terry Wallace that was said to be the worst list since Fitzroy |
He's had literally the same list for at least 5 years now and only now they are starting to show the rewards
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The_Staunton
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| Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | CarringbushCigar wrote: | Is this a performance based industry?
Are we a football club that demands the highest quality people to drive us forward.
FFS - this is 4 consecutive years of no improvement, after a 2 year apprenticeship.
What is it going to take?
5 or 6 years of failing to live up to expectations? |
How long has it taken Hardwick to get Richmond to to the position they are in now? |
He took the worst list in the comp, not a double grand final side? |
Rubbish. He has had the same side for well over 5 years and now they are playing well. FWIW I think Buckleys position should be reviewed. |
Not sure how it's rubbish, he took over the team from Terry Wallace that was said to be the worst list since Fitzroy |
He's had literally the same list for at least 5 years now and only now they are starting to show the rewards |
The first team he coached has about 6 players still playing?
http://www.aflrules.com.au/afl-teams/richmond-tigers/2009-richmond-tigers-team/
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Mr. Burns
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Location: Springfield Nuclear Power Plant
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| The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | CarringbushCigar wrote: | Is this a performance based industry?
Are we a football club that demands the highest quality people to drive us forward.
FFS - this is 4 consecutive years of no improvement, after a 2 year apprenticeship.
What is it going to take?
5 or 6 years of failing to live up to expectations? |
How long has it taken Hardwick to get Richmond to to the position they are in now? |
He took the worst list in the comp, not a double grand final side? |
Rubbish. He has had the same side for well over 5 years and now they are playing well. FWIW I think Buckleys position should be reviewed. |
Not sure how it's rubbish, he took over the team from Terry Wallace that was said to be the worst list since Fitzroy |
He's had literally the same list for at least 5 years now and only now they are starting to show the rewards |
The first team he coached has about 6 players still playing?
http://www.aflrules.com.au/afl-teams/richmond-tigers/2009-richmond-tigers-team/ |
Ok so its taken him 6 years to get them to where they are. Bucks has had 4.
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The_Staunton
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| Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | CarringbushCigar wrote: | Is this a performance based industry?
Are we a football club that demands the highest quality people to drive us forward.
FFS - this is 4 consecutive years of no improvement, after a 2 year apprenticeship.
What is it going to take?
5 or 6 years of failing to live up to expectations? |
How long has it taken Hardwick to get Richmond to to the position they are in now? |
He took the worst list in the comp, not a double grand final side? |
Rubbish. He has had the same side for well over 5 years and now they are playing well. FWIW I think Buckleys position should be reviewed. |
Not sure how it's rubbish, he took over the team from Terry Wallace that was said to be the worst list since Fitzroy |
He's had literally the same list for at least 5 years now and only now they are starting to show the rewards |
The first team he coached has about 6 players still playing?
http://www.aflrules.com.au/afl-teams/richmond-tigers/2009-richmond-tigers-team/ |
Ok so its taken him 6 years to get them to where they are. Bucks has had 4. |
Probably getting off track here
My point was Richmond were bottom
We were top
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Mr. Burns
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| The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | CarringbushCigar wrote: | Is this a performance based industry?
Are we a football club that demands the highest quality people to drive us forward.
FFS - this is 4 consecutive years of no improvement, after a 2 year apprenticeship.
What is it going to take?
5 or 6 years of failing to live up to expectations? |
How long has it taken Hardwick to get Richmond to to the position they are in now? |
He took the worst list in the comp, not a double grand final side? |
Rubbish. He has had the same side for well over 5 years and now they are playing well. FWIW I think Buckleys position should be reviewed. |
Not sure how it's rubbish, he took over the team from Terry Wallace that was said to be the worst list since Fitzroy |
He's had literally the same list for at least 5 years now and only now they are starting to show the rewards |
The first team he coached has about 6 players still playing?
http://www.aflrules.com.au/afl-teams/richmond-tigers/2009-richmond-tigers-team/ |
Ok so its taken him 6 years to get them to where they are. Bucks has had 4. |
Probably getting off track here
My point was Richmond were bottom
We were top |
I agree with you. But I think given the shemozzle that we had with MM going and Buckley trying to get the side that he wants was going to take time. Unfortunately I don't think he has a lot of time left.
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simon tonna
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| thompsoc wrote: | | simon tonna wrote: | | courtza wrote: |
There is no way any man on this planet can coach a team to a premiership if he hasnt got the cattle and if you think an assistant from Hawthorn can come along and set us on the right path its more than likely from the ground work done by the current coaches. |
i get your point.
your blaming the recruitment.
i can see that. |
Is that my cue to jump in??? |
id like to quote derek hine from at the start of this season;
"where were we want to be for a list point of view. its now up to the
coaching department to make good from it".
well along those lines anyway.
these sort of statements from people like hine are ignorant and are not
in the best interest of the collingwood footy club as they often reverberate
twice as loud in a negative way when things go bad.
some tough decisions will have to be made very soon i reckon. but will they be right decisions? only time will tell.
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The_Staunton
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| Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | CarringbushCigar wrote: | Is this a performance based industry?
Are we a football club that demands the highest quality people to drive us forward.
FFS - this is 4 consecutive years of no improvement, after a 2 year apprenticeship.
What is it going to take?
5 or 6 years of failing to live up to expectations? |
How long has it taken Hardwick to get Richmond to to the position they are in now? |
He took the worst list in the comp, not a double grand final side? |
Rubbish. He has had the same side for well over 5 years and now they are playing well. FWIW I think Buckleys position should be reviewed. |
Not sure how it's rubbish, he took over the team from Terry Wallace that was said to be the worst list since Fitzroy |
He's had literally the same list for at least 5 years now and only now they are starting to show the rewards |
The first team he coached has about 6 players still playing?
http://www.aflrules.com.au/afl-teams/richmond-tigers/2009-richmond-tigers-team/ |
Ok so its taken him 6 years to get them to where they are. Bucks has had 4. |
Probably getting off track here
My point was Richmond were bottom
We were top |
I agree with you. But I think given the shemozzle that we had with MM going and Buckley trying to get the side that he wants was going to take time. Unfortunately I don't think he has a lot of time left. |
I can take that point, and I definitely know where you are coming from but the starting point has a lot to do with perception
A 6 win Alan Richardson season carries way more weight than a 9 win Collingwood season, so to speak
I can't see this continuing if we keep playing like this - there was a definite mid-late 90s feel about today, down to the 1/2 empty stands, the brave but very limited players, the sinking feeling we were never really going to win
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Mr. Burns
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Location: Springfield Nuclear Power Plant
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| The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | The_Staunton wrote: | | Mr. Burns wrote: | | CarringbushCigar wrote: | Is this a performance based industry?
Are we a football club that demands the highest quality people to drive us forward.
FFS - this is 4 consecutive years of no improvement, after a 2 year apprenticeship.
What is it going to take?
5 or 6 years of failing to live up to expectations? |
How long has it taken Hardwick to get Richmond to to the position they are in now? |
He took the worst list in the comp, not a double grand final side? |
Rubbish. He has had the same side for well over 5 years and now they are playing well. FWIW I think Buckleys position should be reviewed. |
Not sure how it's rubbish, he took over the team from Terry Wallace that was said to be the worst list since Fitzroy |
He's had literally the same list for at least 5 years now and only now they are starting to show the rewards |
The first team he coached has about 6 players still playing?
http://www.aflrules.com.au/afl-teams/richmond-tigers/2009-richmond-tigers-team/ |
Ok so its taken him 6 years to get them to where they are. Bucks has had 4. |
Probably getting off track here
My point was Richmond were bottom
We were top |
I agree with you. But I think given the shemozzle that we had with MM going and Buckley trying to get the side that he wants was going to take time. Unfortunately I don't think he has a lot of time left. |
I can take that point, and I definitely know where you are coming from but the starting point has a lot to do with perception
A 6 win Alan Richardson season carries way more weight than a 9 win Collingwood season, so to speak
I can't see this continuing if we keep playing like this - there was a definite mid-late 90s feel about today, down to the 1/2 empty stands, the brave but very limited players, the sinking feeling we were never really going to win |
Yep I remember those years vividly and sadly I don't see the committee sacking Bucks. I remember Ed saying back then that Collingwood doesn't sack it coaches.
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