Do we need to review Buckleys position at seasons end?

[Doc63]

[Domesticated_Ape]

No. The succession plan involved Bucks being assistant coach for 2 seasons.

Someone with such a strong opinion on this issue should understand the facts I would have thought.

[Doc63]

[Domesticated_Ape]

He was announced as the assistant coach for 2010 and the senior coach for 2012 at the same time.

It's alright, just pointing this out for those who were still wondering if they should take you seriously or not. The ape insult has sealed it, you're clearly a 13 year old girl.

[courtza]

There are 18 coaches in the competition, 1 team wins a premiership each year, 17 teams lose.

After 11 years at Collingwood and 1 flag, was Malthouse a good coach? We played finals in however many years but 1 flag, is this success?

Is Ross Lyon a good coach? How many years does he get, how good are the lists he's had?

Paul Roos? good coach, dunno?

Alistair Clarkson good coach or a freakin unbelievable list?

I could go on all day.

Its a bit reactive to judge a guy after 4 seasons. We've played some good footy this year, picked up some good recruits in Varcoe Crisp and Levi and some less than great ones. We have some good young guys coming through and by the looks of things will get some more this year.
We are in a bit of a rut at the moment but the feel around the club amongst the boys seems to be positive and happy. I like the way Bucks comes across in the media and seems to be well respected amongst his peers.

Is he a good coach? I dont know but I'd like to see him get an opportunity to see it through.

There is no way any man on this planet can coach a team to a premiership if he hasnt got the cattle and if you think an assistant from Hawthorn can come along and set us on the right path its more than likely from the ground work done by the current coaches.

[Doc63]

[Domesticated_Ape]

[The_Staunton]

[swoop42]

Some coaches are sacked after 2 seasons.

Some take years to win there first premiership.

We just lost last week to a side with a first year coach.

Not many get handed the list Buckley did outside of C. Scott in there first senior gig.

Most new coaches take over an old side in decline or a club in crisis.

Ours didn't fall into either category.

Time frame is irrelevant, it's all about results and if we only win 2 more games for the season that will be 4 consecutive years of going backwards in terms of ladder position.

That's a concern and not what was envisaged by those in power at the start of 2012 and anyway who thinks as such is deluded.

Bucks most likely get one more year but if we don't play finals next year then he'll be sacked and rightly so.

[simon tonna]

[uncanny]

Make a call on the coach this time next year. See how we are travelling then.

[courtza]

[thompsoc]

[qldmagpie67]

Defender normally I would give this little thought and back Bucks.
But today after watching the manner of the loss I'm inclined to think a little differently.
Now a review IMO would be smart but not just of the senior coach but all coaches, coaching methods, selection policy, medical, fitness and all related aspects.
Missing 2 players from our list all year (Keefe & Thomas) hasn't helped our depth or structure. Having no Reid available all year hasn't helped our depth or structure either.
At 8-3 I was happy with everything and was hopeful of a finals appearance more from the view point of experience for the younger players development than having the chance to win a comp this year.
Some posters on here make valid points both ways I guess.
The Hawks case is Clarkson the best coach or does he have the best list ?
Well he missed 5/6 weeks last year and they kept winning is that the senior playing group, quality assistants keeping the same plan in place or just good luck ?
Personally I believe it's more the senior playing group and the quality of the assistants.
Our game style of manic pressure is always going to take w toll but the drop off the past 3 weeks has been immense.
Prior to th west coast game we had been very competitive in every game and that was all we could have asked for.
Now I wonder if we have been simply figured out and have no plan B to go to.
Our skill level is deplorable and there can't be any hiding from that. Even when we win we butcher it badly we just haven't been punished. Whoever teaches the basic skills of kick and handball needs to be sacked without question.
Have a review but that does not mean sack Buckley I would be more inclined to go after Brendon Bolton (if he doesn't secure and senior post elsewhere) and offer him a big pay rise and see if he can bring something new to us.
If we don't see a marked improvement next year then we may already have the next senior coach in waiting already on our books.
I wouldn't be sacking Bucks based on this year as I never thought we would be huge improvers anyways. But we had better show it next year as this list is getting more experience so that excuse is losing steam.

[doriswilgus]

Put it this way.If Nathan Buckley wasn't a champion Collingwood footballer and a favouite of Eddie's,would he still be coach today,given his record over the last four years?I think the answer to that is no.