Reclaim Australia

[stui magpie]

I can forgive a bit of argy bargy when emotions get heated, what i can't forgive is kicking people on the ground. When I was growing up if you got into a fight everyone would back off and you'd fight 1 0n 1. If someone went down, the other person would back off until you got up again or stayed down.

Now you have two people grappling and an audience standing back waiting for someone to hit the ground so they can run in and start kicking. Weak cnuts.

[think positive]

You see it so much now though, "attacked by a group of men" wow so tough!

I also agree with David though, protests have become just another excuse to hit someone and get away with it. If they really believed in their cause, they would want to get their point across in a peaceful way that would win support for their cause. I'd say the majority do that, just like everything else, it's spoilt by a few twerps.

[watt price tully]

There were only about 50 or so from Reclaim Austraya. So why give them oxygen?

While there are too many stupid people who say things like "I don't want Sharia law in Australia" as though this is going to occur, is imminent & Australia is about to be overtaken by Muslim hordes, the anti-dote to such profound ignorance is not to have violent opposing counter demonstrations.

The anti dote is clear communications & unequivocal leadership through government & the opposition joining together to "lead" not exploit fear for base political motivations . Unfortunately Howard & Abbott both require a machiavelli-ectomy before this would be seen as a desirable action.

Reclaim Austraya is largely ignorance based on irrational fear.

[David]

Given that that's not going to happen, would you say that it's a tactical mistake to turn up and publicly oppose these protests?

The trouble is that, if you do, there'll be an inevitable minority of troublemakers coming along who will make the cause look bad. If you don't, the other side marches unopposed and gets to say that they're standing up for the silent majority.

I think Reclaim does need to be opposed, but I'm not sure what is the most effective means of doing so. Certainly, screaming and brawling is never an edifying sight.

[5150]

[King Monkey]

[David]

[HAL]

I don't think I have read ought to be thrown in their general direction .

[Dave The Man]

[HAL]

Now I do.

[stui magpie]

[Wokko]

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/john-safran-reports-from-the-reclaim-australia-rally-where-things-were-even-scarier-than-he-expected/story-fnu2q5nu-1227451292484

The headline is shit, but the article is pretty good; John Safran at the Reclaim rally.

[David]

[stui magpie]

You could argue each case. I tend to favour the argument that by opposing them they get so much more media attention which is more likely to generate sympathy and followers, so the counter protest is counter productive.

[David]