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think positive Libra

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:45 pm
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dancambo wrote:
Toovey should retire


So should some pathetic posters

A few in this thread

Collect your prickles on the way out the door guys

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:01 pm
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A few interesting comments from Bucks's presser:

Kennedy showed a bit
Seedsman still trying to work out if he belongs at this level (a bit of a shot across the bow)
re structure with Cloke out for a few weeks - you replace a tall forward with a tall forward

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:06 pm
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think positive wrote:
dancambo wrote:
Toovey should retire


So should some pathetic posters

A few in this thread

Collect your prickles on the way out the door guys


And you start going to the games then you can have a say. In the meantime, shut up. Armchair experts have no idea.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:07 pm
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RudeBoy wrote:
jackcass wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:
jackcass wrote:
Deja Vu wrote:
It's not the game plan. It's the continual inability to execute basic skills. How many players have missed easy goals over the last 4 weeks when the game was there to be won?

Out on the full?

Missed tackles?

Ineffective spoils going third man up?

Taking advantage when there is none there?


Well said.


At half time our kicking efficiency was 80% to the Eagles 59%.


Yep, was 78% to 71% at the end I think. Just goes to show how much harder they worked to offset that. The tackle count was something like 73-44 to so we worked hard. But how many times did our tackles cause a ball-up or a turnover? How often did the ball come out to a free Weagles player?


It shows we didn't lack effort, just anyone who could take an overhead mark in our forward line.


That'd be lovely. Even down the flanks. Once we'd lost Cloke we were likely going to struggle in that area.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:12 pm
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MightyMagpie wrote:
A few interesting comments from Bucks's presser:

Kennedy showed a bit
Seedsman still trying to work out if he belongs at this level (a bit of a shot across the bow)
re structure with Cloke out for a few weeks - you replace a tall forward with a tall forward


Thanks MM. Actually like to see Kennedy and the Seed get a couple of games. Kennedy did show a bit, if he'd kicked that goal we'd probably rate his efforts higher. Seed always seems to take a couple to get back up to pace and yes I know he probably directly contributed to at least 3 of their goals.
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think positive Libra

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:40 am
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Hiss wrote:
think positive wrote:
dancambo wrote:
Toovey should retire


So should some pathetic posters

A few in this thread

Collect your prickles on the way out the door guys


And you start going to the games then you can have a say. In the meantime, shut up. Armchair experts have no idea.


WTF! I go every week! Didn't you see me on the big screen in the first quarter!

Only games I Ve missed this year are interstate, and I've been to a few of the. Over the years!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:21 am
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Monco Matt wrote:
Our season is over only from a flag winning prospect, but we can still make the 8 and win a final which would be an improvement from 2014. It is all academic though, the Hawks will win 3 in a row, they are next to freaking unbeatable when they are on. Completely destroying the Swans right now. Too damn good that lot.

In terms of our prospects this year this best sums it up!

The Hawks are clearly the benchmark but considering our overall development and rebuild we're faring pretty well in light of the low expectations at the start of the year.

We were never a flag-winning prospect despite our good start but our aim should be to make the eight and hopefully win a final if it's possible. It would be a great achievement for a young side like us and after our second-half collapse last year I hope the playing group is desperate enough to not repeat it again after being 8-3 at the halfway mark just like last year.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:32 am
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jackcass wrote:
MightyMagpie wrote:
A few interesting comments from Bucks's presser:

Kennedy showed a bit
Seedsman still trying to work out if he belongs at this level (a bit of a shot across the bow)
re structure with Cloke out for a few weeks - you replace a tall forward with a tall forward


Thanks MM. Actually like to see Kennedy and the Seed get a couple of games. Kennedy did show a bit, if he'd kicked that goal we'd probably rate his efforts higher. Seed always seems to take a couple to get back up to pace and yes I know he probably directly contributed to at least 3 of their goals.


Which one? He had several opportunities that should of been kicked, particularly in the closed stadium

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:43 am
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[quote="Collingwood Crackerjack"]
jackcass wrote:
MightyMagpie wrote:
A few interesting comments from Bucks's presser:

Kennedy showed a bit
Seedsman still trying to work out if he belongs at this level (a bit of a shot across the bow)
re structure with Cloke out for a few weeks - you replace a tall forward with a tall forward


Thanks MM. Actually like to see Kennedy and the Seed get a couple of games. Kennedy did show a bit, if he'd kicked that goal we'd probably rate his efforts higher. Seed always seems to take a couple to get back up to pace and yes I know he probably directly contributed to at least 3 of their goals.

The issue with Kennedy is not that he can't get the ball or his tackling
lt is his kicking! Can he find a target and can he kick goals.
He couldn't even make that 40 m goal on the run.
We have too many players who can't kick or use the ball

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:07 am
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Before the Season Started many on here had us finishing outside the 8. Season Over? Laughing My view is If you can't make top four you need to finish as low as possible and use the system.

Keep blooding the kids and let's see what transpires.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:56 am
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Next game is against the Western Bulldogs but we have to wait till Round 20 before we play Sydney and therefore everyone team at least once.

I think this ladder puts our season in a little bit more context. Whilst we have been more competitive against the top teams e.g. Hawthorn, we haven't been able to beat them.

This was meant to be a development year and in reality still is.

1 Fremantle -- LOST by 7
2 West Coast -- LOST by 31
3 Hawthorn -- LOST by 10
4 Sydney
5 Richmond -- LOST by 5
6 Bulldogs --
7 GWS Giants -- WON by 42
8 Collingwood
9 Nth Melbourne -- WON by 17
10 Adelaide -- LOST by 27
11 Geelong -- LOST by 41
12 Port Adelaide -- LOST by 3
13 St Kilda -- WON by 74
14 Essendon -- WON by 20
15 Melbourne -- WON by 25
16 Carlton -- WON by 75
17 Gold Coast -- WON by 69
18 Brisbane -- WON by 12

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:13 am
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Relative experience (average games per player = GPP) also provides context. We have won every game where we were more experienced (plus Ess, Car, NM games). See below.

stoliboy wrote:
Next game is against the Western Bulldogs but we have to wait till Round 20 before we play Sydney and therefore everyone team at least once.

I think this ladder puts our season in a little bit more context. Whilst we have been more competitive against the top teams e.g. Hawthorn, we haven't been able to beat them.

This was meant to be a development year and in reality still is.

1 Fremantle -- LOST by 7 28.6 GPP more than us
2 West Coast -- LOST by 31 16.5 GPP more than us
3 Hawthorn -- LOST by 10 54.9 GPP more than us
4 Sydney
5 Richmond -- LOST by 5 2.8 GPP more than us
6 Bulldogs --
7 GWS Giants -- WON by 42 8.5 GPP less than us
8 Collingwood
9 Nth Melbourne -- WON by 17 32.3 GPP more than us
10 Adelaide -- LOST by 27 0.2 GPP more than us
11 Geelong -- LOST by 41 10.7 GPP more than us
12 Port Adelaide -- LOST by 3 10.9 GPP more than us
13 St Kilda -- WON by 74 13.1 GPP less than us
14 Essendon -- WON by 20 35.4 GPP more than us
15 Melbourne -- WON by 25 6.6 GPP less than us
16 Carlton -- WON by 75 10.6 GPP more than us
17 Gold Coast -- WON by 69 26.5 GPP less than us
18 Brisbane -- WON by 12 11.1 GPP less than us

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:16 am
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Thanks, MM - that also serves to illustrate quite what a poor position the Blooz, Essendon and North are in.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:28 am
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hypothetically, how would we be looking if we had have played this batch of teams earlier in the year? i'd hazard a guess the outlook would have been more grim had we lost four straight then rather than now.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:52 am
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stoliboy wrote:
Next game is against the Western Bulldogs but we have to wait till Round 20 before we play Sydney and therefore everyone team at least once.

I think this ladder puts our season in a little bit more context. Whilst we have been more competitive against the top teams e.g. Hawthorn, we haven't been able to beat them.

This was meant to be a development year and in reality still is.

1 Fremantle -- LOST by 7
2 West Coast -- LOST by 31
3 Hawthorn -- LOST by 10
4 Sydney
5 Richmond -- LOST by 5
6 Bulldogs --
7 GWS Giants -- WON by 42
8 Collingwood
9 Nth Melbourne -- WON by 17
10 Adelaide -- LOST by 27
11 Geelong -- LOST by 41
12 Port Adelaide -- LOST by 3
13 St Kilda -- WON by 74
14 Essendon -- WON by 20
15 Melbourne -- WON by 25
16 Carlton -- WON by 75
17 Gold Coast -- WON by 69
18 Brisbane -- WON by 12


Not sure how much development there has been. We were a mid road team last year and this ladder suggests we're still a mid road team. Able to beat the bottom teams but can't beat the better ones.

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