Cloke and White Goal Kicking Holding us Back

[Dave The Man]

We played arguably the top 2 sides in the Competion and we should of beaten both of them.

But our 2 Key Forwards can Kick Straight from a Set Shot in front of Goal.

We can play very well but can’t kick straight we won’t become a Top 4.

Both have had Straight Kicking games but where both against Bad Sides

[Pies4shaw]

Collingwood took 15 marks inside 50 tonight. Very few of them were converted. Meanwhile, at the other end, Hawthorn took 10.

Of the Hawthorn players who marked inside 50, apart from Gunston (who kicked 2.4 - but, of course, nobody's mentioning that because Hawthorn won), amongst others Rioli kicked 5.0, Breust kicked 3.0 and Scone-maker kicked 1.0. What that suggests is that Hawthorn were getting the ball into the hands of the right players. At Collingwood, that would normally be Fasolo (whose kicking let him down) and Elliott (who didn't get a mark inside 50 and didn't trouble the scorers).

Cloke and White kicked about the way they kick most weeks (Cloke is sometimes a little better) - the problem seemed to me to be that the Hawks were able to close down all our good kicks for goal, except Fasolo (who, as fate would have it, chose tonight to be hopeless in front of goal). What we need is a better spread of goalkickers - and more players who are able to get into the forward 50 to mark consistently against top-quality opposition teams.

[eddiesmith]

So the real issue is Toovey getting raped by Rioli...

[ronrat]

Cloke , fasolo , and white are paid to kick goals. Tonight they have cost us top 4. There is no excuse.

[simon tonna]

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