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ad4eva Pisces



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:52 pm
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Has made a good contest and has been more involved for longer the past month.

Should be his bench mark for the rest of the year, and with a little more confidence he will be kicking those ones from in front. He is actually a nice kick, its just all between the ears.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:08 am
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thompsoc wrote:
I have said it before and I will say it again.
He cannot play the Leigh Brown role!
Leave him forward and he will do ok.
Put him in the ruck and his forward work suffer
and he is lost when playing in the ruck.


Leigh Brown 2011
GM K HB D M G B T HO FF FA
Total 23 160 122 282 86 23 17 82 120 23 36
Average 23 7.0 5.3 12.3 3.7 1.0 0.7 3.6 5.2 1.0 1.6

Jesse White 2015
GM K HB D M G B T HO FF FA AF * SC *
Total 13 104 52 156 62 20 16 23 69 10 13 870 889
Average 13 8.0 4.0 12.0 4.8 1.5 1.2 1.8 5.3 0.8 1.0 66.9 68.4

Interesting, Jesse is 3 goals short so far this year than Leroy had for the whole 2011 season.
The only stat Leroy has Jesse covered is in Tackles

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:38 am
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I think he has been good (and improving) this year. If he cost us a first round draft pick or a bunch of players I think my perspective would be different. But he didn't, he was a utility pick up and as such he has matched or exceeded my expectations.

For all the criticism for his missed shot in the last... people seem to have forgotten than he nailed is first shot in the 4th quarter to get our roll on.

And for anyone who actually watched the match, it is clear that we lost the game in the third when we had the largest run of momentum (of both teams) for the whole match and converted poorly.

As a final point... everyone is having a sook for only just loosing to the reigning premiers in what is supposed to be a development year.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:04 pm
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MJ23 wrote:
thompsoc wrote:
I have said it before and I will say it again.
He cannot play the Leigh Brown role!
Leave him forward and he will do ok.
Put him in the ruck and his forward work suffer
and he is lost when playing in the ruck.


Leigh Brown 2011
GM K HB D M G B T HO FF FA
Total 23 160 122 282 86 23 17 82 120 23 36
Average 23 7.0 5.3 12.3 3.7 1.0 0.7 3.6 5.2 1.0 1.6

Jesse White 2015
GM K HB D M G B T HO FF FA AF * SC *
Total 13 104 52 156 62 20 16 23 69 10 13 870 889
Average 13 8.0 4.0 12.0 4.8 1.5 1.2 1.8 5.3 0.8 1.0 66.9 68.4

Interesting, Jesse is 3 goals short so far this year than Leroy had for the whole 2011 season.
The only stat Leroy has Jesse covered is in Tackles


Love it. Deserves a thread on its own - '' Exploding the myth ''
And how many games did White get to play alongside both Cloke and Dawes at the peak of their powers ?? ( yes, I know stats aren't everything but they certainly solidify some opinion on here )

I do agree with Thompsoc that his game as a forward seems to be affected after a stint in the ruck and that is quite understandable.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:59 pm
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Hehehe.... "The Leigh Brown Role"

I'm a big fan of the Anvil but he really was a cult hero. And I've said it before but cult heroes are cult heroes because while being awesome in their own little way, they're not good enough to be actual heroes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9c_KM0FlGw

Premiership spud is still spud.

As for Jesse White: well what do you want? Tall overhead marking beast with a deadly accurate kick on goal who also has a flanker's agility and pace, a shitload of mongrel and who can also play competent 2nd ruck? Sure, the league's full of those players - a younger Adam Goodes is about the only one I can think of and even he missed his share of sitters. Good luck shaking them out of another list for a 3rd rounder or whatever we got White for as well as paying him something like 3 or 400kpa.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:12 pm
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What'sinaname wrote:
No excuses.

You can talk about misses t every other point in the game, but late the last quarter, the goals mean more as there is less time for the opposition to kick a "reply".

Jessie has choked three times in two weeks. He's a head case unfortunately, and I'd like for us to chase another tall forward for 2016 and beyond and have Grundy ruck 100% of the time or split time with Witts if they are both dominating.

Jessie isn't a piece to the premiership puzzle.


No doubt but we havent got a heap of other options at the moment. Charlie Dixon is the one we got to through the bucks at , he even has had a salad once with Leigh Brown!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:12 pm
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What'sinaname wrote:
No excuses.

You can talk about misses t every other point in the game, but late the last quarter, the goals mean more as there is less time for the opposition to kick a "reply".

Jessie has choked three times in two weeks. He's a head case unfortunately, and I'd like for us to chase another tall forward for 2016 and beyond and have Grundy ruck 100% of the time or split time with Witts if they are both dominating.

Jessie isn't a piece to the premiership puzzle.


No doubt but we havent got a heap of other options at the moment. Charlie Dixon is the one we got to shove the bucks at if his form keeps up , he even has had a salad once with Leigh Brown!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:49 pm
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Woods Of Ypres wrote:
has cost us 8 premiership points in 2 weeks Mad


This is a sure fire winner for "The most stupid" post of the year..... Shocked

What a load of absolute bloody crap when in both games over 4 quarters, many others missed important shots at goal as well... Mad Evil or Very Mad

Totally stupid bloody comment even for Nick's..... Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:21 pm
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Lazza wrote:
Woods Of Ypres wrote:
has cost us 8 premiership points in 2 weeks Mad


This is a sure fire winner for "The most stupid" post of the year..... Shocked

What a load of absolute bloody crap when in both games over 4 quarters, many others missed important shots at goal as well... Mad Evil or Very Mad

Totally stupid bloody comment even for Nick's..... Rolling Eyes


Ouch the rolling eye of Lazza is roaring like an 8 ft swell! Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:42 pm
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3rd degree wrote:
Lazza wrote:
Woods Of Ypres wrote:
has cost us 8 premiership points in 2 weeks Mad


This is a sure fire winner for "The most stupid" post of the year..... Shocked

What a load of absolute bloody crap when in both games over 4 quarters, many others missed important shots at goal as well... Mad Evil or Very Mad

Totally stupid bloody comment even for Nick's..... Rolling Eyes


Ouch the rolling eye of Lazza is roaring like an 8 ft swell! Rolling Eyes


Dumb posts such as this deserve a double dose.... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:11 am
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Lazza wrote:
Woods Of Ypres wrote:
has cost us 8 premiership points in 2 weeks Mad


This is a sure fire winner for "The most stupid" post of the year..... Shocked

What a load of absolute bloody crap when in both games over 4 quarters, many others missed important shots at goal as well... Mad Evil or Very Mad

Totally stupid bloody comment even for Nick's..... Rolling Eyes


LOL caught ya Wink
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