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Dangles 

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:11 pm
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So I see there's a riot taking place in the Ravenhill Prison believed to be in response to statewide prison smoking bans due to start tomorrow. Imagine what it's going to be like when they've been off the darts for a few days. Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:14 pm
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The riots were predicted by everyone in the industry. Smokes are currency in the prison system and the blanket ban was not thought out properly. This is just the start and it will cost the State and Taxpayer.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:39 pm
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When I got locked up 15 years ago they would issue you with one pack of White Ox per week and one liter of milk per day, problem was I didn't smoke and didn't drink milk, it was like they wanted to give me extra punishment for my brief 2 day stay.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:41 pm
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Same thing happens in emergency departments & is a common cause of calling security when say an agitated patient wants a cigarette & they are not permitted. The are offered nicotine patches etc. I've seen lots of people "crack it" requiring security etc & if they are a compulsory patient involuntary in the old lingo that is, waiting to be admitted into a psychiatric facility, if they have said along the chain of events leading to the ED presentation that they are suicidal or have suicidal thoughts / homicidal thoughts etc then they are not allowed out for cigarettes.

On such occasions it is not uncommon for patients to "lose it" whereby staff safety is becomes an issue & where the patient may require medications indeed on some occasions IV medications & mechanical restraint to the trolley.

All triggered by a persons need for a cigarette & hospital policy.

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Tannin Capricorn

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:42 pm
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1: Who cares?

2: Going cold turkey isn't that bad. It's not the withdrawls or the cravings that get you, it's the constant mental stress of saying will I have a smoke, no I'm giving up, but I could have just one, no but I am giving up, yes but maybe I could give up next week, no but .... With a blanket ban, there is no mental stress: you can't have a smoke no matter what, so you don't have one. Easy. Next question.

3: The first three days are the worst. After that the cravings fade away little by little. Lock the prisons down, wait three days, situation normal.

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watt price tully Scorpio



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:44 pm
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Tannin wrote:
1: Who cares?

2: Going cold turkey isn't that bad. It's not the withdrawls or the cravings that get you, it's the constant mental stress of saying will I have a smoke, no I'm giving up, but I could have just one, no but I am giving up, yes but maybe I could give up next week, no but .... With a blanket ban, there is no mental stress: you can't have a smoke no matter what, so you don't have one. Easy. Next question.

3: The first three days are the worst. After that the cravings fade away little by little. Lock the prisons down, wait three days, situation normal.


For me it was the first 5 days 15 years ago

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Dangles 

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:16 pm
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Tannin wrote:


2: Going cold turkey isn't that bad. It's not the withdrawls or the cravings that get you, it's the constant mental stress of saying will I have a smoke, no I'm giving up, but I could have just one, no but I am giving up, yes but maybe I could give up next week, no but .... With a blanket ban, there is no mental stress: you can't have a smoke no matter what, so you don't have one. Easy. Next question.


Next question?

OK, so I've been collecting my next door neighbour's hair for a while now and I finally have enough to make a doll out of them. What's the least creepy way to present it to her?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:20 pm
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Maybe when you are a little older.
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Tannin Capricorn

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:30 pm
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Dangles wrote:
OK, so I've been collecting my next door neighbour's hair for a while now and I finally have enough to make a doll out of them. What's the least creepy way to present it to her?


My advice is simple: don't try smoking it.

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Tannin Capricorn

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:31 pm
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Um. We are talking about the hair from her head aren't we?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:11 am
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Good. One of the deadliest drugs known to man and in almost all cases recorded, leads to harder drugs.
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Tannin Capricorn

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:13 am
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^ Pubic hair?

Gosh!

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Can someone explain the rationale behind this? I understand that it might be a means of protecting non-smoking prisoners from second-hand smoke (and perhaps improving the health of everyone else), but there's a reason why something like this hasn't been tried in wider society for a long time: enforced sudden quitting of an addictive drug is likely to result in pretty negative short-term side-effects. It just seems like authoritarianism for its own sake.

(That doesn't justify rioting, of course, but if you don't want riots it's probably a good idea to think about what your constituents want.)

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