Feminism

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I've never had a problem with it!

[Wokko]

I'm sure every fanatical hate group has a nice, comfy sounding definition. Thing is none of that is what feminism actually does. You need to educate yourself, I suggest you start with Karen Straughn, she's posted many videos about feminism and shows a rationality and civility that I find it very hard to maintain in the face of shrill criticism when this issue comes up.

Not supportive Article about her: http://theflounce.com/anti-feminist-karen-straughan-give-shit/

Youtube video launching point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA&index=1&list=PLbA7X2U_AzlKZhRkaHH-cJgRq9azNygpV

[Morrigu]

Well I can tell you one thing is hasn't reached Uganda that's for sure!!! Everything here except standing around doing nothing is " women's work"

And the mainly yank God botherers are over here creating havoc - did you know circumcision will prevent AIDS

That is what they are " teaching" Ugandans - and as a consequence the circumcision rates for men of all ages has skyrocketed!!

Strangely enough HIV infection rates have not decreased

They should just buggar off back to la la land

[David]

Wokko, as you're aware, I do have some reservations about certain aspects of certain strains of feminist thought and activism. But to call feminists en masse a "hate group" is terribly jaundiced and misguided, I feel.

The fact is, we live in a gendered society. Even Skids' experience demonstrates that. I don't think anyone could say that men and women are treated equally in every respect in our society, even if equality has been achieved in many areas. That inequality reduces opportunities, perpetuates gender roles and stereotypes and leads to conditions in which, for instance, teenage girls are fed the idea that their worth is based on their appearance, or males are shamed for expressing emotions.

There are two common responses to that inequality: one is to say that it's not that much of a big deal or that it's just the natural way of things; the other is to work to reduce it. Feminists simply belong to the latter camp. For all the stupid things done in their name, they don't all deserve to be tarred with the same brush.

The majority of feminists are intelligent and thoughtful people. If there was no feminism, our society would be in a much worse place than it is now.

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[stui magpie]

feminism. A movement that achieved a lot way back when. Is it still relevant now and what do you do with someone who describes themselves as a feminist in a day and age when male and female have legislated equal rights?

Meh.

For me, I don't call myself a feminist. I threatened to break the jaw of a 15 year old boy who was being a smartarse toward a female telling to to "make me a sandwich" on pure principle. (The threat was enough to focus his attention, I didn't need to follow through much as I wanted to)

I raised my daughter to believe the only limits she had were the ones she set herself. She was raised with a male doing the cooking cleaning and housework, me. She played with dolls because she liked them. She also played cricket and roller hockey against the boys in the street and played footy against men in a Nicks game at Vic Park a few years back and asked for no quarter. She doesn't have any hangups, she goes forward believing she and men are equal and different and that's how it should work.

So for me feminism is a non issue unless I run into some dickwad who thinks that women are less than men. Happens rarely.

[David]

[What'sinaname]

Fat ungrateful lesbians.

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[HAL]

What's your sign?

[David]

[Nick - Pie Man]

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