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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:05 pm
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Fair enough. I've only watched two short clips from the debate so I can't really comment. All I can say is that most of the American media is terrible. It's no wonder that some Americans feel like their only choice for decent TV news is the BBC.


Where on gods green earth did you pull that statement from?

OK, if 3 people out of however many million do that it does count as some but still. I'm pretty sure the major news channels get pretty good ratings so there's plenty of people watching.

There's also plenty of people drinking their coffee and that is seriously crappola stuff, but they're used to it.

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:17 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
Where on gods green earth did you pull that statement from?


From the usual place. Wink

I think it's probably more academics who can't deal with commercial American TV. PBS isn't bad either, apparently, but woefully funded.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:35 pm
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Dr Ben Carson takes the lead.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/02/poll-ben-carson-takes-lead-six-points-donald-trump-second-place/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:37 pm
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I am sure he will be interested to hear that.
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:24 pm
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Good god. I'm almost barracking for Bush or Rubio now. Although, admittedly, Carson would be a massive free kick to the Democrats if he actually got nominated.

PS, this article was at least mildly amusing:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2015/nov/03/frontrunners-for-president-frankie-boyle

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Why do both parties rage against bias in what is actually a laughably servile media? Maybe it’s because the political class have an instinctive contempt for asking the public to decide anything meaningful, such as policy. So their campaigns have to be largely symbolic affairs about hope or hard work or whatever flavour of horseshit is polling well. Most campaign spending goes on advertising (65% of Obama’s “grassroots” campaign of 2012 was media spend) and advertising speaks in symbolism. Thus the parties may actually distrust any kind of rational inquiry, as what they’re saying doesn’t, and can’t, make any sense.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:09 am
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Scratch Carson.

Joseph built the pyramids to store grain? Really?

http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/ben-carson-criticized-scientists-not-believing-pyramids-were-build-joseph

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:54 am
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^ it isn't the wackiest thing he's said, and apparently nobody cares. That this guy and Trump are leading the polls suggests there's something seriously weird going on within the Republican movement. This is Tea Party on acid.
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Better a sincere, moral, good man with a bit of whacko than a rabid, progressive, Social Justice Warrior of a leader.

http://www.therebel.media/justin_trudeau_the_prime_minister_from_tumblr

The thought of that happening here sends chills down my spine. Thankfully our main leftish party are still fairly conservative and wouldn't (please) put in a crazy authoritarian leftist to lead (Plibersook comes to mind as the only one who might pull a Bradbury when Shorten goes and nobody wants to lead).
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I don't know much about Trudeau, but he has to be an improvement on Harper... and if his biggest crimes are supporting marijuana decriminalisation and having photos taken with topless protestors, sign me up now!

(I don't know much about the 'gamergate' business but its proponents do seem a little dubious.)

Anyway, I just realised that Chafee and Webb have dropped out of the Democratic race, which makes sense because, honestly, why did they even bother running in the first place? But it still seems strange that there are 15 Republican candidates and only 3 Democrats. Is everyone else so certain that Clinton will get the nomination that they couldn't be bothered running?

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"The media has no idea how to deal with Donald Trump's constant lying"

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/23/9784766/donald-trump-abc-stephanopoulos

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It's exhausting following this and I don't even live in the USA so I can only imagine what it's like for the Yanks!

Does anyone know when the final vote for Democrats and Republican nominees to run as President is going to take place?

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It's exhausting following this and I don't even live in the USA so I can only imagine what it's like for the Yanks!

Does anyone know when the final vote for Democrats and Republican nominees to run as President is going to take place?


The Dems will nominate Hillary, there's nobody else. (She's 25 points up on the Socialist).

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html


The 2016 Republican National Convention, in which delegates of the United States Republican Party will choose the party's nominees for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States in the 2016 national election will be held July 18–21, 2016. The Convention is to be held at the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio

The 2016 Democratic National Convention is the gathering at which delegates of the United States Democratic Party will choose the party's nominees for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States in the 2016 national election. It will be held July 25–28, 2016, at the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia.
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Thanks for the information and dates Wokko.

Sanders was seen as the only potential threat to Hillary but she was pretty much a certainty from the start.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:35 pm
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Yep, it'll be Clinton for the Dems. Bush or Rubio for the Republicans is my guess.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:42 pm
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Bush is at 5.5

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html
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