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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:05 pm
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Also worth considering is how Bush is burning money on the campaign while Trump is spending far call and relying on his media presence. Laughing
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:14 pm
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Wokko wrote:
Big risk/Big reward play going on there. Trump can cut a swathe into moderates for the general election IF he already thinks he's got the nomination wrapped up.

I think he also just hates the Bushes Laughing

He announced his campaign the day after Jeb for example.

One of his best lines from the debate came after Jeb said something about his mum being great and Donald quipped "Maybe she should be running then". Laughing


I'm fond of the conspiracy theory that he's a deep cover liberal who only chose to run as a means of derailing Bush's campaign and taking the piss out of the whole process. When you consider everything he's said, it makes some sense. Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:35 pm
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He's been flirting with running for President for decades, I think it's more about ego than anything. He's also said many times he's a conservative on most issues but some like healthcare he's more liberal. For example he has a concealed carry permit and has a firearm most of the time. His economic and tax policies are almost anarcho-capitalist.

He's not a conservative, I'd call him a radical nationalist. If he does have collectivist/statist tendencies then he's probably heading towards 20s style National Socialist or Italian style Fascism... although I doubt you'll hear that one bandied about. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:26 am
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Come on Wokko you know you want to blow the Donald.

http://www.trumpdonald.org/

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:06 am
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swoop42 wrote:
Come on Wokko you know you want to blow the Donald.

http://www.trumpdonald.org/


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David Libra

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:23 pm
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^ Well that's good to know, because America's going to be well and truly £@#%ed if he gets in. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:26 pm
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Hillary has drifted to evens & Donald continues to shorten, in from 5/1 to 7/2.

He is definitely a huge chance according to the punters.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:57 am
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14 and 18 seem switched on
http://www.buzzfeed.com/kimberleydadds/oh-frankie-boyle#.blLX7Yo3K

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:44 am
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The pressure seems to be getting to Jeb Bush. He just posted this on Twitter the other day. Shocked

https://twitter.com/jebbush/status/699706718419345408

Also, in equally amusing news, jebbush.com has lapsed and the domain has been purchased by ... guess who?

http://www.jebbush.com

Can this race get any more petty or immature? Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:12 am
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David wrote:
The pressure seems to be getting to Jeb Bush. He just posted this on Twitter the other day. Shocked

https://twitter.com/jebbush/status/699706718419345408

That is gold. The bloke doesn't even realise what a cringe he and everything he represents is.

If only gun toting hills cults were seen as the future of the planet Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:25 am
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Supporrt for Hillary, into 9/10.
Donald back out half a point to 4/1.
Rubio is 6/1
The really old bloke is 8/1
Cruz 14/1
Bloomberg 17/1
Bush 18/1.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:05 pm
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A critique of Bernienomics:
http://www.vox.com/2016/2/18/11041838/bernienomics-wonks

5% sounds like nonsense, but the institutional, authoritarian democrat response is just as unbelievable for other reasons, including this:
http://www.vox.com/2016/2/18/11045492/dodd-frank-cost-benefit-analysis

It's pretty pathetic to think a country has to choose between Big Finance and Big Fossil Fuels because those two factions can outspend everyone else to buy a two-horse race Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:33 pm
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Bloomberg 17/1? That's pretty short odds for someone who has repeatedly denied that they're running and would have to achieve the unprecedented task of winning as an independent... I'd back Bush and even Kasich in ahead of him.

BTW, thanks for those articles, PTID, interesting stuff.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:52 pm
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David wrote:
The pressure seems to be getting to Jeb Bush. He just posted this on Twitter the other day. Shocked

https://twitter.com/jebbush/status/699706718419345408

Also, in equally amusing news, jebbush.com has lapsed and the domain has been purchased by ... guess who?

http://www.jebbush.com

Can this race get any more petty or immature? Laughing


I thought you cultural relativists would be more understanding; polls consistently show American support for the 2nd amendment.

As for the jebbush.com, while amusing it wasn't Trump who did that, it was an Australian troll but yeah, funny stuff. Laughing

I'd be more worried that Jeb was saying goodbye with that tweet, poor Jeb I like the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yHckRTkcZg
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:23 pm
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I think you miss the point. To support the second amendment is one thing; to post a picture of a gun with the caption "America" is quite another. Like, that's what sums up America? Lethal weaponry?

Most of the clips in that video basically just made him look like an ordinary likeable guy (which I know is electoral poison in America; you have to be big man on campus every minute of the day, lest you be thought of as 'weak'). But that tweet was sad, in the sense that it made him seem like a total tryhard.

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