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watt price tully 
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Stui noted in part:
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And the latest news about her emails won't help. Nor will, since she's been so into Trump for how he treats women, the fact that the trigger for reopening the investigation is a tard named Weiner who's been sexting 15 year old girls and happens to be married to one of Hillary's closer support staff
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Yep, Women having to pay the price for their husbands bad behaviour.
I would have thought that Trump is more into how he treats women than the future President Clinton is 
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stui magpie 
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Doesn't matter what you or I think, we don't get to vote over there.
Clinton's polls are going down, Donnie is going up. It's within a couple of percent and will be a line ball with the electoral college system unless there's yet another twist in the last week
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David 
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The electoral college is still heavily favouring Clinton, but a win for Trump is at least within the realm of possibility if he takes Florida:
http://www.270towin.com/
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stui magpie
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He's apparently ahead in Florida atm
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Dave The Man
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I would not even Vote for either.
Both Pathetic as Each Other
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So thankfully Zimbabwe have decided the Rand is as good as the USD so no need to worry about who wins anymore - yay!
But in trying to watch what might happen to the AUD/USD exchange rate - I've read heaps suggesting that if Trump doesn't win there will be civil unrest of a substantial magnitude.
Curious from those that are following it in more detail than I - how likely do you think this is? Just posturing or a real possibility???
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David
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| stui magpie wrote: | ^
He's apparently ahead in Florida atm |
In some polls; others have Clinton narrowly ahead and others have it as too close to call. Keep in mind though that winning Florida doesn't mean he wins the election; it's just a state he needs to win if he has any chance. The one he'll really struggle with is Pennsylvania, which has been well in Clinton's favour for some time now.
This is an even better site than the one I posted, by the way. It has state by state breakdowns:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html
If the current figures hold, then Clinton needs just one of Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Arizona, Georgia or Colorado to win, whereas Trump needs all of those plus at least one of Iowa and Nevada. Trump looks like taking Arizona and Georgia, but I suspect Colorado and North Carolina will be a bridge too far.
Here's some analysis of the most recent polling:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-comey-or-not-trump-continues-to-narrow-gap-with-clinton/
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watt price tully
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| stui magpie wrote: | ^
He's apparently ahead in Florida atm |
Only on one particular poll recently.
The polls in the US are quite different from each other, ask different questions, have different margins of error.
For example the LA times uses a relatively large sample & has Trump ahead most of the time but has the largest margin of error in the polls according to Real Clear Politics.
One would rather be in Clinton's position than Trumps this close to the wire.
Put it this way, I'll be asking David if he could spot me for a $20 next week
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David
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While Clinton is copping all the heat at the moment for her (potentially) shady behaviour, the news that Trump was a massive tax dodger doesn't seem to be making many waves:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/donald-trump-tax.html
| Quote: | One letter, 25 pages long, analyzed seven distinct components of Mr. Trumps proposed tax maneuver. It found only substantial authority for six of the components. In the stilted language of tax opinion letters, the phrase substantial authority is a red flag that the lawyers believe the I.R.S. can be expected to rule against the taxpayer roughly two-thirds of the time. In other words, Mr. Trumps tax lawyers were telling him there were at least six different reasons the I.R.S. would probably cry foul if he were audited. In anticipation of that possibility, the lawyers even laid out a fallback plan that would have allowed Mr. Trump to spread the pain of a large tax hit over many years if the I.R.S. ultimately balked.
It is unclear whether the I.R.S. ever challenged Mr. Trumps use of this specific tax maneuver. According to a financial disclosure statement prepared by Mr. Trumps accountants, he was under audit by the tax authorities as of 1993, only a year after he avoided reporting hundreds of millions of dollars in taxable income because of this legally suspect tactic. But the results of that audit are unknown, and the agency declined to comment on Monday.
Regardless of whether the I.R.S. objected, Mr. Trumps tax avoidance in this case violated a central principle of American tax law, said Mr. Buckley, the former chief of staff for Congresss Joint Committee on Taxation, who later served as chief tax counsel for Democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee.
He deducted somebody elses losses, Mr. Buckley said. By that, Mr. Buckley meant that only the bondholders who forgave Mr. Trumps unpaid casino debts should have been allowed to use those losses to offset future income and reduce their taxes. That Mr. Trump used the same losses to reduce his taxes ultimately increases the tax burden on everyone else, Mr. Buckley explained. He is double dipping big time. |
Whether his methods were legal or not and that seems to be genuinely in question at the moment it doesn't exactly say much for his honesty or integrity. Not sure why people are so willing to shrug their shoulders at billionaires ripping off millions from government resources while ordinary people earning far less pay their fair share.
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David
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Tannin
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Trump has form on this sort of massive financial fraud, David. He has on multiple occasions pulled essentially the same double-counting trick by routing dodgy funds through his own "charitable" foundation and back to himself.
Trump, fraud. Two words that go together perfectly.
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| Tannin wrote: | Trump has form on this sort of massive financial fraud, David. He has on multiple occasions pulled essentially the same double-counting trick by routing dodgy funds through his own "charitable" foundation and back to himself.
Trump, fraud. Two words that go together perfectly. |
This and his racial rants and misoginist rants has me really scratching my head how he has any real supporters full stop. Are they so jaded with the powers that be? That they would pick a guy, who if not for his power and money would surely be locked up! The reports about his mate, convicted no less, and the plane with the minors used for sex. The tax dodging. How the hell does anyone equate that with an unsecured email account?
Crackers.
This sanders guy is looking like a good choice!
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| think positive wrote: | | Tannin wrote: | Trump has form on this sort of massive financial fraud, David. He has on multiple occasions pulled essentially the same double-counting trick by routing dodgy funds through his own "charitable" foundation and back to himself.
Trump, fraud. Two words that go together perfectly. |
This and his racial rants and misoginist rants has me really scratching my head how he has any real supporters full stop. Are they so jaded with the powers that be? That they would pick a guy, who if not for his power and money would surely be locked up! The reports about his mate, convicted no less, and the plane with the minors used for sex. The tax dodging. How the hell does anyone equate that with an unsecured email account?
Crackers.
This sanders guy is looking like a good choice! |
It is remarkable that this race is still in contention. While I do not believe he will win, I suppose this is what revolutions look like. Whatever mayhem may ensue, we will no longer accept the rulers that have ruled over us. And HRC is the epitome of the modern American aristocracy.
There was probably only one candidate capable of making Trump seem like an alternative, and the Democrats found her.
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Tannin
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| Mugwump wrote: | | There was probably only one candidate capable of making Trump seem like an alternative, and the Democrats found her. |
^ As useful a short summary of the whole election as one could ask to see.
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Wokko 
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As shown in the leaked emails, the polls are pretty universally rigged to favour Clinton and they're still turning Trump's way. The media are starting to jump off the Clinton bandwagon, a newspaper in Florida even issued an apology for unbalanced anti-Trump coverage.
The only remarkable thing is that Hillary supporters still think she's in with a chance. I guess when the dead vote for you you're always in with a chance.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/16/politics/rudy-giuliani-rigged-elections-donald-trump/ |
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