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BazBoy 



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:34 pm
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What about Marsh --in VFL he seems to play the talls and smalls well
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:41 pm
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Tannin wrote:
The game v Norf made it clear that we need another fast small defender. Norf cut us apart by playing two good smalls: Harvey went forward, so we switched our best small backman onto him (Williams) ... but that left the dangerous Nahas uncovered. Well, Nahas had a defender on him much of the time, but that defender seemed to be whoever was spare at the time. Possibly Toovey is the only one apart from Williams with the pace to cover a second small forward - it's not good to be trying to cover a Nahas with the likes of Langdon or Oxley or Goldsack.

Sinclair would get the job, you'd reckon, if he was fit and in the 22, or even Armstrong. But even if you have a quick small defender like Sinclair available, if you are going to play him you are going to have to take someone else out to make room. On balance, you'd probably be better in most games with the extra medium back (the likes of Langdon and Oxley). Most but not all. Does that mean we just have to go with the one genuine small in defence and hope for the best?

I don't think so. Cast your mind back to our premiership side. We had an extra man available there to give us flexibility, one Ben Johnson. BJ could play back pocket, but if not required there he could be a hard-running flanker, a wingman, or even go into the middle as a genuine midfielder.

That's what we ought to be looking at now: grooming one or two midfielders as part-time defenders so that they can go back and pick a man up if needed (where the opposition play the extra small in attack, or if Williams is injured) but otherwise play as midfielders.

The player(s) would need to be quick, agile, and capable of that aggressively defensive mindset that back pockets need. Who are the possibilities?


  • Adams: a required player in the middle (though might get some release with Greenwood coming back in), pace a question mark.
  • Seedsman: has the pace, question marks over the agility and the true defensive mindset. Probably better used as an attacking HB/wing anyway.
  • Blair: not quick enough, a bit weak overhead.
  • Kennedy: has the pace, has the agility, does he have the defensive game?
  • Broomhead: seems more of a midfielder/forward to me.
  • De Goey. Would probably be very good at it, but you'd reckon he'll be too valuable in the guts to be released.
  • Freeman. Not what he was recruited for. No idea if he'd be any good at it - he never seems to get on the park.
  • Elliott: would be brilliant - but who is going to send our best, most reliable forward to the back pocket? You'd be mad.
  • Fasolo. Too slow, too valuable in attack with his marking and brilliant kicking.
  • Swan. Not while he's still getting 30+ and Brownlow votes in the middle.
  • Pendlebury: not a chance.
  • Sidebottom: very good in defence - remarkably good considering his less than stunning pace - but too valuable elsewhere.


Any ideas?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:50 pm
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we don't need any more small defenders. we need the guys to play a team defence and not get isolated which is when we tend to struggle. our mids also need to be accountable defensively.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:17 pm
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melliot wrote:
With Crisp playing so well as a "run with" player in the middle, we maybe have the opportunity to play Caff in the back line also. Again when he comes back.


Caff's not agile enough to take the Eddy Betts Rioli types out in the open. Ramsey, Toove,s Williams and Sinkers (When fit) are our choice defenders for those roles.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:57 pm
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