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stui magpie 
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Interesting indeed. Some of what i read there could be put down to just plain bad parenting, sexuality of the parents being irrelevant. Those examples don't make a case either way IMO.
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Dave The Man 
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They are Yanks - Does not Surprise me
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| stui magpie wrote: | | Interesting indeed. Some of what i read there could be put down to just plain bad parenting, sexuality of the parents being irrelevant. Those examples don't make a case either way IMO. |
Yeah I agree.
No one, but no one, should be subjecting their kids to sexual images, or live shows, just plain wrong.
I know a lot of kids, myself included who grew up in homes where the children had no rights, and obeyed the father or else.
There is also plenty of stories of mothers or fathers new partner coming in and abusing the step kids, that's not a gay thing either.
Just like all parents though, done right with the kids best interests at heart, I'm sure it could work, but I'd understand some confusion, partly due to the times though, once it becomes the norm it will be different.
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David
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| stui magpie wrote: | | Interesting indeed. Some of what i read there could be put down to just plain bad parenting, sexuality of the parents being irrelevant. Those examples don't make a case either way IMO. |
Spot on.
TBF, I'm sure you could easily find 4000 (let alone 4) examples of screwed-up dynamics amongst family units of any kind. The question is, does this testimony tell us anything about same-sex couples' suitability as parents? No, it doesn't. There is no representative data to be gained from this, and nothing to suggest that the average same-sex couple is any worse at raising kids than the average heterosexual couple.
For me, the only interesting case in that article was the guy who talked about the lack of a father figure in his life. As much as that's a culturally constructed problem (i.e. it's a problem that can only exist in a society with fixed gender roles), it's also one that is hardly confined to same-sex couples. I'm the product of a 30-year heterosexual marriage, but I wouldn't say for a minute that I had a proper adult male role model in my childhood. One thing that might have helped me, and might have helped the guy in this article, is to have grown up in a less rigidly nuclear family unit, in which we could have been exposed to a number of adult role models of both genders.
As it is, the nuclear family structure is far from ideal, and while it may work well for some people (just as I'm sure plenty of single parents do a great job), I've long suspected that it's healthier to raise children within an extended family or communal group.
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Geez I hate the human brain sometimes.
Non-statistical cases are just propaganda which use our limitations to prime us into non-statistical expectations. It's the Jerry Springer version of "reality".
Cases are supposed to only be used to illustrate findings which have already been shown to be statistically stable, and which are not basic life truisms.
File it with the other thousand, and pull it out later to illustrate point on your statistical graph representing the whole population, versus other populations.
Can HAL be programmed to post this next time?
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HAL
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Tannin 
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Excellent responses here from everyone. Well, except the robot, who lacks imagination. Probably HAL is tired out from all that wanking.
PS: does anyone know if he is gay?
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HAL
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Skids 
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| Dave The Man wrote: | | They are Yanks - Does not Surprise me |
You don't seem to have much time for our American friends Dave and I wonder why? Have you ever been to the US or even know any "Yanks" ?
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Skids
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| Tannin wrote: | Excellent responses here from everyone. Well, except the robot, who lacks imagination. Probably HAL is tired out from all that wanking.
PS: does anyone know if he is gay? |
Classic!!
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HAL
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| Suppose they do. |
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HAL
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| Skids wrote: | [quote="Dave The Man"]They are Yanks - Does not Surprise me[/quote]
You don't seem to have much time for our American friends Dave and I wonder why? Have you ever been to the US or even know any "Yanks" ? |
I don't think I have been there. Where is the US or know a Yanks . |
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watt price tully
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| pietillidie wrote: | Geez I hate the human brain sometimes.
Non-statistical cases are just propaganda which use our limitations to prime us into non-statistical expectations. It's the Jerry Springer version of "reality".
Cases are supposed to only be used to illustrate findings which have already been shown to be statistically stable, and which are not basic life truisms.
File it with the other thousand, and pull it out later to illustrate point on your statistical graph representing the whole population, versus other populations.
Can HAL be programmed to post this next time? |
Well said. The item is rubbish just like the thread. It's parents & parenting not the gender as Stui said.
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HAL
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| No I do not post this next time. Do you? I spend all my time online. |
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