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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:24 am
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This is never going to happen. Having two ruckmen that could potentially be the best ruck combination in the modern game once they mature is a prize and a jewel.

Buckley has stated that the reason he persists playing both is that he wants to retain both and if we drop one to the VFL on an ongoing basis we will loose him to another team and the development will become static.

I certainly back Buckleys approach.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:27 am
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People on this site overrating Witts big time, reckon not many teams would bother even looking at him, I see him as an in/out player that isnít much value TBH, if we could get a top player by using Witts & first round then that would be a massive steal for us!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:41 am
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Use Witts as part of the deal to get Treloar.
Absolutely!
Ad I really rate the combination of Witts ad Grudy.
But Treloar is something special!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:18 am
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Unless it was guaranteed that we were going to get another ruck in return or an opportunity to recruit one via free agency or the psd then probably not. I would keep him. We can't run the risk of thrashing poor Grundy in the ruck on his own. That would ruin him. He needs back up but someone who is established. I think the problem is that because Witts and Grundy are so young and inexperienced it's not benefiting either of them whereas if either of them had a 10 year ruck by their side, they would most likely flourish. Until that happens, they just have to do it the hard way and learn themselves.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:09 am
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Member 7167 wrote:
This is never going to happen. Having two ruckmen that could potentially be the best ruck combination in the modern game once they mature is a prize and a jewel.

Buckley has stated that the reason he persists playing both is that he wants to retain both and if we drop one to the VFL on an ongoing basis we will loose him to another team and the development will become static.

I certainly back Buckleys approach.


Totally. J-Rrod has massive upside. I don't know why people would want to use Grundy MC and a third tall forward/relief ruckman type when you can have two A-grade ruckman, who can double team the oppsotition's first ruck and exploit their back up second string ruckman. I also think both J-Rrod and Grundy MC will be better than Leigh Brown or Jesse White up forward.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:40 am
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Darkstranger wrote:
People on this site overrating Witts big time, reckon not many teams would bother even looking at him, I see him as an in/out player that isnít much value TBH, if we could get a top player by using Witts & first round then that would be a massive steal for us!


Big many in many instances take longer to develop and I believe that Witts falls into this group. Given time he will be a real asset to our team. If you trade him now it is like planting a fruit tree and getting rid of it as it has not produced fruit when immature and before its time.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:16 pm
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mattys123 wrote:
Yeah, let's put 10 years of development into a kid then trade him for a 3rd round pick, genius that. Laughing


We would not Give Witts Away IF we trade him.

Only way he would be Traded IF we are Chasing a Gun and they want something good in Exchange

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:18 pm
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Member 7167 wrote:
This is never going to happen. Having two ruckmen that could potentially be the best ruck combination in the modern game once they mature is a prize and a jewel.

Buckley has stated that the reason he persists playing both is that he wants to retain both and if we drop one to the VFL on an ongoing basis we will loose him to another team and the development will become static.

I certainly back Buckleys approach.


In There Prime. Would the happy to Share there Ruck Time?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:23 pm
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Presti35 wrote:
Would we be stupid to do this?


Yes. Next question please.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:30 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
Member 7167 wrote:
This is never going to happen. Having two ruckmen that could potentially be the best ruck combination in the modern game once they mature is a prize and a jewel.

Buckley has stated that the reason he persists playing both is that he wants to retain both and if we drop one to the VFL on an ongoing basis we will loose him to another team and the development will become static.

I certainly back Buckleys approach.


In There Prime. Would the happy to Share there Ruck Time?


If we get to that stage, then one of them will want to be traded and we will have a top flight ruckman in his prime on the table. That's when you can get whoever is equivalent to Treloar at that stage (3rd/4th year up and coming mid) and maybe even get a steak knife or two.

At the moment, we would be paying overs to get Treloar and getting unders if we trade Witts. In a few years time, people will hopefully be prepared to pay overs for him to get him away from us.

Meanwhile, we don't do what Carlton did with Judd, selling a big an and picks for another midfielder. We rebuild nice and steady.

And don't get me wrong, Treloar would be kinda awesome
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:59 pm
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Geek wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:
Member 7167 wrote:
This is never going to happen. Having two ruckmen that could potentially be the best ruck combination in the modern game once they mature is a prize and a jewel.

Buckley has stated that the reason he persists playing both is that he wants to retain both and if we drop one to the VFL on an ongoing basis we will loose him to another team and the development will become static.

I certainly back Buckleys approach.


In There Prime. Would the happy to Share there Ruck Time?


If we get to that stage, then one of them will want to be traded and we will have a top flight ruckman in his prime on the table. That's when you can get whoever is equivalent to Treloar at that stage (3rd/4th year up and coming mid) and maybe even get a steak knife or two.

At the moment, we would be paying overs to get Treloar and getting unders if we trade Witts. In a few years time, people will hopefully be prepared to pay overs for him to get him away from us.

Meanwhile, we don't do what Carlton did with Judd, selling a big an and picks for another midfielder. We rebuild nice and steady.

And don't get me wrong, Treloar would be kinda awesome


Trealor would not be Worth the Judd/Beams Price

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:26 pm
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Damn silly thread, Witts is our future version of Sandilands, a giant, big men take a lot longer to develop, as Lou Richards always said, Wittsy will be bloody awesome in 3 seasons time, as Sandilands developed into.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:43 pm
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Piesnchess wrote:
Damn silly thread, Witts is our future version of Sandilands, a giant, big men take a lot longer to develop, as Lou Richards always said, Wittsy will be bloody awesome in 3 seasons time, as Sandilands developed into.


Be Great to have a Saindlands and a Goldstein in the Ruck Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:53 pm
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I am a big fan of both Grundy & Witts playing together hopefully for the next 10 years and becoming the dominant ruck paring that we all hope will happen.

The only way I think we would trade them is if Mason Cox becomes a dominant ruckman. If we have 3 dominant ruckman we might have one too many.

But I expect if this was to happen it will be in three or more years time. Lets worry about that in 2018 or 2019

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:16 pm
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He couldn't even get a crack at a proper pre season.
I think he deserves more time before we put a line through him just yet.
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