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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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If there has to be one?
If you don't want the death penalty at all, cool, no requirement to comment in this thread, but the question is if there has to be a death penalty what is the best kind to have?
Ideally you would want it to be quick, painless and effective with no room for error, no option for mistake.
Hanging is not ideal. If you don't get a lot of things right then the person could either strangle slowly or have their head yanked off.
Electric Chair - can't see how it could be painless and there's been cases where errors meant people got cooked rather than killed. Not pleasant.
Lethal injection - all sorts of issues with this from drug companies wanting to prevent their drugs from being used to the potential for not being quick and painless.
Guillotine - Quick, Painless, effective but gruesome. Pretty messed up spectacle.
Firing squad. Not a fan, too many people involved, too much room for error, capability of having someone seriously wounded and in pain needing to be finished off.
That's pretty much all the modern methods, none of them really tick all boxes. The guillotine for mine comes closest. So, my thought would be that the best option if there has to be death penalty is to tweak that a bit.
You don want to make the execution process complex or you'll risk not getting anyone with the skills to perform it. so my suggestion if to bring in an anaesthetist to render the person unconscious first using standard anesthetics the same as they would prior to surgery while they're strapped to a bench, then wheel them into a private area where they get beheaded by a modified guillotine that has all the effectiveness and none of the theatrics.
Thoughts?
If there has to be one, what's the best option? _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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Being sentenced to death by natural causes.
Seriously? I'd probably go the lethal injection. Waiting for a guillotine blade to fall would be a pretty awful way to die. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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That's why I suggested knocking them out first so they're asleep when the blade hits. Put you in the bed, pump in the drugs, go to sleep, then take off the head to make sure you don't wake up. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Morrigu
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If we must then an opioid - fentanyl or morphine. _________________ “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” |
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John Wren
"Look after the game. It means so much to so many."
Joined: 15 Jul 2007
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being forced to watch collingwood. _________________ Purveyor of sanctimonious twaddle. |
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Bucks5
Nicky D - Parting the red sea
Joined: 23 Mar 2002
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Death by sexual exhaustion? May as well go out with a bang |
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thebaldfacts
Joined: 02 Aug 2007
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Get Philip Nitschke to advise on this. He seems to know the best way to kill people and you never hear the media or those who support him complain the his methods are inhumane or not effective. |
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Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
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Drowning.... isn't that supposed to be the best?
Who cares, if you've committed the crime, I hope you bleed to death slowly and painfully😠 _________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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As horrible as it is, Skids, that view was the norm not all that long ago. I was reading about this subject some time ago, and found it interesting that until the 1500s (or thereabouts) torture was actually an inherent part of capital punishment. The concept of humane punishment was seemingly completely alien, at least in European society.
Say what you like about the modern world and its ills, but we've come a long way.
thebaldfacts wrote: | Get Philip Nitschke to advise on this. He seems to know the best way to kill people and you never hear the media or those who support him complain the his methods are inhumane or not effective. |
You know, I was thinking exactly the same thing. Nice to be on the same page for once. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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Morrigu wrote: | If we must then an opioid - fentanyl or morphine. |
yeah this one for me.
the suicide machine is not bad, but if someone had done something id consider deserving of the death penalty, then nup, save it for those who really need it. the really sick and in pain.
the guillotine is just to macabre (dont give the jihads any justification!) same as the chair, shooting,
strap em down and give them the shot. let them have a couple of sleeping tablets first, that would stop the death bed show!! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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5150
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Stonefish sting - |
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think positive
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5150 wrote: | Stonefish sting - |
Ewww bitch! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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pietillidie
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I'm not sure about the best, but this is certainly the most ironic: Fred thinks the death penalty will reduce violence because some idiot on cable TV told him so. Instead, when it actually increases violence through a range of complex sociological interactions, Fred becomes part of the heightened statistics. _________________ In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
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Member 7167
"What Good Fortune For Governments That The People Do Not Think" - Adolf Hitler.
Joined: 18 Dec 2008 Location: The Collibran Hideout
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If we are going this way then just pump a substance through the air duct system into a specially designed cell on death row whist the individual is asleep. Clear the air and then have someone give them a massive injection of anesthetic that will knock them off.
The individual knows in advance that it will occur sometime after a specific date within a specified time period.
Having people wait years on death row and strapping them to a bench or into an electric chair seems barbaric and unnecessary. _________________ Now Retired - Every Day Is A Saturday |
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David
I dare you to try
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Member 7167 wrote: | Having people wait years on death row and strapping them to a bench or into an electric chair seems barbaric and unnecessary. |
I completely agree, though I'd just change that to "Capital punishment itself is barbaric and unnecessary". _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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