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Mugwump 



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:38 am
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^ Well, perhaps it is, if words have ceased to have any meaning at all.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:43 pm
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Islamic terrorism alright!

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Turkish child marriage religious document sparks anger

It said that, according to Islamic law, the beginning of adolescence for boys was the age of 12 and for girls the age of nine. On the same website, it said that whoever reached the age of adolescence had the right to marry.

Turkey's main opposition party has called for a parliamentary inquiry after the directorate of religious affairs said that, under Islamic law, girls as young as nine could marry..


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42558328

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:24 am
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From Wikipedia, the Prophet's favourite wife, Aisha, was between 7-10 at marriage and between 9-12 when the marriage was consummated upon her reaching puberty.
If it's good enough for the Most Holy Prophet....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:12 am
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There is a limit to how far I want to judge other cultures in their own lands and from outside their own historic traditions. Clearly some practices are barbaric, such as the slavery our ancestors practised, the rituals of the Aztecs, Suttee in India, or FGM today in many parts of Africa, etc. etc. But a culture which decides that marriages are arranged, and that girls are sexually mature enough to consummate a “marriage” at puberty (not before) is acting abhorrently to me, but not necessarily barbarically and unnaturally by any cultural standard.

Since I deeply object to the violation of our culture and evolved historical moral sense by people who assert an entitlement, or de facto willingnesss to import culturally aberrant practices here, I think it reasonable that I accept the same principle in other civilisations.

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Just trying to point out the motivation and conundrum for the folks in Turkey who made this pronouncement.
If you believe that Mohammed was the perfect man, then it makes sense to think that marrying children is ok.
In fact, it would be very difficult to argue that marrying children is not ok.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:52 pm
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^ There is some (likely convenient) conjecture over how old Aisha was (some Islamic scholars place her actual age at marriage as 16 or older), and it is said that the marriage wasn’t consummated until several years after. The greater likelihood is that child marriage was simply the norm at the time and that Muhammad wasn’t acting unusually. The bigger problem is when fundamentalists interpret 7th century tribal rituals as a good way to live in the 21st century. Hence the age-old struggle in all religious faiths, to varying degrees, between literalist fundamentalists and liberal reformers.
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I have never heard about The age-old struggle in all religious faiths between literalist fundamentalists and liberal reformers .
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:21 pm
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And Ireland is getting some.
terrorists have been laughing at how easy Ireland has been to penetrate and the resultant behavior has now begun.

Egyptian asylum seeker, 18, is arrested over potential terror attack after one person is stabbed to death and two injured in Irish street rampage

Stabbing victim has been identified as a 24-year-old Japanese worker in Ireland
Knife attack happened shortly after 9am this morning in Dundalk, County Louth
Two others, who are Irish men, were attacked with iron bar in separate assaults
Police are working to establish whether the three were terror related and linked


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5231769/One-person-dead-random-stabbing-attacks-Ireland.html#ixzz53IC2tJFb
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:23 pm
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Comforting news?

Muslims Will Replace Jews as America's Second-Largest Religious Group By 2040, Study Shows.

In 2016, there were 307 incidents of anti-Muslim hate crimes, marking a 19 percent increase from 2015. However, the largest number of all types of hate crimes against a religious group was toward Jewish Americans.

The religion of peace Rolling Eyes

http://www.newsweek.com/muslims-will-replace-jews-america-second-largest-religious-group-770066?piano_t=1

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:25 pm
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Charming fellow... let more in??

Italy: Somalian Storms Delivery Room and Attempts to Rape Woman in Labour

An unreal situation in the Italian capital Rome, according to Libero; a Somalian man managed to get past the security of Sant’Eugenio Hospital and stormed a delivering room where he attempted to rape a woman in labour. Migrants have been found guilty of various terrible crimes but this is a first. Luckily the monster was stopped before he could harm the woman and her baby.

The criminal is a 38 years old Somalian, already charged for other crimes in the past. The man managed to get his hands on a green uniform and sneaked in the delivery room where he started to touch and fondle the woman in labor while masturbating. The cries of help of the woman alerted the personnel in the surrounding area who entered the room and incapacitated the man and subsequently delivered the animal to the police.

https://www.defendevropa.org/2018/migrants/migrant-crime/italy-somalian-storms-delivery-room-attempts-rape-woman-labour/

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There is some (likely convenient) conjecture over how old Aisha was (some Islamic scholars place her actual age at marriage as 16 or older), and it is said that the marriage wasn’t consummated until several years after.
Yes, interesting that as time's gone by scholars have made her older and older. I'm guessing that having your prophet marry a 6 year old is bad PR in modern times.

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The greater likelihood is that child marriage was simply the norm at the time and that Muhammad wasn’t acting unusually.
Agreed, by the standards of the time, the Prophet Muhammad did nothing wrong.

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The bigger problem is when fundamentalists interpret 7th century tribal rituals as a good way to live in the 21st century. Hence the age-old struggle in all religious faiths, to varying degrees, between literalist fundamentalists and liberal reformers.
As per my previous comment, if you believe Muhammad is the perfect man then it's very hard to argue against things like marrying children and chopping people's heads off.
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London gets Muslim mayor, now tops in acid attacks
Exponential increase in horrific crime.

London Mayor Sadiq Khan is infamous for his declaration terrorism is simply “part and parcel of living in a big city.”

Gun crime in London is up 15 percent.

Homicides are up 25%, including an explosion in youth homicide of 70%.

Robbery is up by more than a 33%.

The year 2017 ended with four fatal stabbings in London.

Knife crimes increased 30%.

Among the most terrifying crimes in London are acid attacks, which have soared exponentially since 2014. There were 431 such attacks record in 2016, and police report they have become the tactic of first resort for some gangs.

Acid attacks also seem to correlate to the large Muslim population in some areas of the city.

Parts of London have become “no go zones” for delivery drivers fearful of acid attacks. Drivers now stop work after the sun goes down, willing to accept a pay cut if it means avoiding the danger increasingly present on the streets of London.

Labour MP Stephen Timms claimed London now has more acid attacks per capita than any other city in the world.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2018/01/under-muslim-mayor-london-world-capital-of-acid-attacks/#vrBlCTw5tltS7qVU.99

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It think your criticism of Mr. Khan is unfair.
He's way to busy with the important work of rolling out gender neutral toilets to worry about crap like stabbings, muggings and acid attacks.
Get your priorities right.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sadiq-khan-mayor-of-london-gender-neutral-toilets-london-plan-a8081136.html
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Skids wrote:
Charming fellow... let more in??

Italy: Somalian Storms Delivery Room and Attempts to Rape Woman in Labour

An unreal situation in the Italian capital Rome, according to Libero; a Somalian man managed to get past the security of Sant’Eugenio Hospital and stormed a delivering room where he attempted to rape a woman in labour. Migrants have been found guilty of various terrible crimes but this is a first. Luckily the monster was stopped before he could harm the woman and her baby.

The criminal is a 38 years old Somalian, already charged for other crimes in the past. The man managed to get his hands on a green uniform and sneaked in the delivery room where he started to touch and fondle the woman in labor while masturbating. The cries of help of the woman alerted the personnel in the surrounding area who entered the room and incapacitated the man and subsequently delivered the animal to the police.

https://www.defendevropa.org/2018/migrants/migrant-crime/italy-somalian-storms-delivery-room-attempts-rape-woman-labour/


So far so disgusting, but single incidents don’t tell you anything, really, and he’s probably an individual with a problem who happens to be Somalian. It’s the overall rate of crime among immigrants that is more meaningful. Poor Italy’s exquisite culture is undoubtedly being mangled by the insane flow of illegal migration it is forced to tolerate by the UNHCR, and I expect that it will eventually give rise again to the far-right in Italy, but the migration status of a given nutter is a fourth-order issue.

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Skids wrote:
London gets Muslim mayor, now tops in acid attacks
Exponential increase in horrific crime.

London Mayor Sadiq Khan is infamous for his declaration terrorism is simply “part and parcel of living in a big city.”

Gun crime in London is up 15 percent.

Homicides are up 25%, including an explosion in youth homicide of 70%.

Robbery is up by more than a 33%.

The year 2017 ended with four fatal stabbings in London.

Knife crimes increased 30%.

Among the most terrifying crimes in London are acid attacks, which have soared exponentially since 2014. There were 431 such attacks record in 2016, and police report they have become the tactic of first resort for some gangs.

Acid attacks also seem to correlate to the large Muslim population in some areas of the city.

Parts of London have become “no go zones” for delivery drivers fearful of acid attacks. Drivers now stop work after the sun goes down, willing to accept a pay cut if it means avoiding the danger increasingly present on the streets of London.

Labour MP Stephen Timms claimed London now has more acid attacks per capita than any other city in the world.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2018/01/under-muslim-mayor-london-world-capital-of-acid-attacks/#vrBlCTw5tltS7qVU.99


Sadie Khan is right, and Londoners have long been used to terrorism, from the filthy IRA to today’s vile jihadis. If you choose to live here, or anywhere else urban, Islamic terrorism is a risk you take, alas. Why Muslims are not more activist against this is a mystery.

The ordinary crime statistics, however, are not something that should be laid at the door of Muslims, most of whom are law-abiding and many of whom have far better moral values than modern native British.

As I have stated many times before (and cited evidence), violent and property crime rates are a consequence of deeper social forces that originated in the cultural revolution of the 1960s. The total loss of confidence of authority, the flabby punishment of crime, the collapse of the married family, the widespread availability of drugs, a culture that glamorizes hedonism and the reprsentation of crime in the media are all more significant than immigration.

There is little to link the latest surge in acid attacks to immigration. There have always been a steady low level stream of attacks on women by families or lovers who wish to punish and threaten their social and sexual autonomy. That is a largely Muslim (esp. Pakistani) thing. The recent upsurge is driven by street gangs adopting the tactic, however, possibly because of a crackdown on carrying knives. It’s a fashion. Jailng a few perpetrators for the term of natural life (or better, hanging them for an unspeakably disgusting, intentional and premeditated crime) would probably stop it, but blinding and disfiguring another person facially for life doesn’t seem to warrant very much unpleasantness, in our court system. A recent case saw an acid attacker (white male) get (nominally) eight years for disfiguring five boys in an unprovoked attack, with one suffering life-changing eye injuries.

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