Terror attacks by Islamist groups

[Mugwump]

The 1 million was in Germany alone, and across Europe it is probably near 2. The point is that base case is 10% by 2050 and the rate of increase has just accelerated sharply. It might get to 20% or 18% or 16%. Five percent is already a big problem. If this was an incursion of a devout Christian sect you'd be shouting it from the rooftops and demanding something be done. But because it is "not us" you consider it benign. Does that not strike you as odd ??

Suggest you read up on Pascal's wager. Labeling practical risk management a "justification for believing in the implausible" is glib and it belies your intellect. The problem with Pascals Wager is that evidence for God is pretty thin. The evidence for the rising Islamic population and the depredations of Islam is incontrovertible. It's not Pascal's wager at all.

[Mugwump]

^ most advanced nations have carpet bombed cities in the past, and committed atrocities. There is no real evidence that the present US administration wishes or plans to do this, as it has not done so. It has not even advocated carpet bombing anyone. You just made it up because "it once happened". On this basis, Poland should reinforce its Western borders.

Now, I think it is probably more likely that DT (Agent Orange) will do this compared to nice Mr Obama, but that's just a guess because he's a libidinous charlatan, its not a basis for suggesting it is likely to happen.

[David]

[Culprit]

Let's go back to what we did during WWII. We should lock up all the refugees and Muslims and their entire families in prison camps. Then we can all sit around campfires and drink VB and sing Waltzing Matilda cause we are safe.

Derryn Lynch posted this and it would be a first for me to agree with him.

[Culprit]

If you have not seen this, here is the photo of the guy in hospital that fought off the attackers in London when they tried to get in to a bar?
His mates brought him in a present. lmao

[Mugwump]

^ the figures are not absurd at all. I've sourced the reference for the 10%, and explained that this projection assumed pre-2015 policies, which increased the intake dramatically. On this basis a 20% Islamic Europe is quite possible. By comparison with your airy confidence that it'll all be ok, really, in the end, I've been rigorous. You just do not like the answer.

I've explained why the Pascal analogy is categorically invalid. Repeating it in the same terms does not improve your logic. But again - Pascal was talking about believing in something for which there was no possible empirical validation. There is vivid evidence of Islam's horrors and its historic failure. That makes a response to it a simple risk calculation of a mundane kind.

Perhaps taking a million orthodox Christians annually into a secular society, year fare year, is something you would accept. Based on the number of negative things you have said about xtianity vs the number of exculpatory words you write on behalf of Islam, it did not seem likely, and of course it is academic anyway as the numbers are not large enough in their case. Still, as you have now explicitly clarified your position, it is understood thanks.

[Skids]

Poland let hardly any refugees in.... guess how many terrorist attacks there have been in Poland.

This, from 2015....

'Poles don't want immigrants. They don't understand them, don't like them'

“We don’t want terrorists here,” the Polish pensioner says, when asked about EU plans to resettle refugees more broadly across the continent. “Have you seen what they’re doing in the west?”

It’s a popular view here, if a baffling one. Poland is little affected by the refugee crisis in Europe, and accepts vanishingly small numbers of migrants. And yet the country has some of the most pungent views on immigration on the continent. A recent survey for the television station TVN found that two-thirds of Poles share the same hostility towards immigrants expressed by the Warsaw grandmother cited above

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/02/poles-dont-want-immigrants-they-dont-understand-them-dont-like-them

This from yesterday.....

NO REFUGEES, NO TERROR FOR POLAND, HUNGARY

Prime Minister in Budapest has described incoming crowds as 'a poison'


The European Union has called on Poland to accept more than 6,000 asylum seekers or face economic sanctions. Citing security concerns, Szydlo said Poland “will not participate in the Brussels elites’ folly.”

Szydlo has also drawn a direct link between terrorism and the EU’s migration policy, claiming that “it is impossible not to connect them.”

Polish Interior Minister Mariusz Blaszczak considers the threat of migrants “much worse” than the threat of EU sanctions and has said that such waves of mass migration only harm the “security of Poland and the Poles.”


http://mobile.wnd.com/2017/06/no-refugees-no-terror-for-poland-hungary/

[David]

[Skids]

I'd say 0% is the safest option. Poland has a population of 38 million of which 0.1% are Muslim

4.... that's how many terrorist attacks there's veen in Poland! 4!!!

Maybe the head of ASIO needs to open his eyes a little bit wider. He should immediately resign from his position as he obviously has no clue.

The Tarnów rail station bomb attack was a bombing carried out by a German agent atTarnów, Poland. It occurred in the night of August 28, 1939, when a time bomb planted by the agent exploded, killing 20 people and wounding 35.


Rewolucyjni Mściciele (Polish forRevolutionary Avengers, also known as Grupa Rewolucjonistów Mścicieli, translated as Group of Revolutionaries and Avengers) was ananarchist movement operating mostly in Łódźin the Piotrków Governorate of Congress Poland in the years 1910–1914. It has been described as the most radical terrorist organization in the history of Poland

Bloody Wednesday (Polish: Krwawa środa) refers to the events of 15 August 1906 in the(Congress) Kingdom of Poland, where theCombat Organization of the Polish Socialist Party (OB PPS) carried out a series of attacks on Russians, primarily police officers and informants. This took place in the context of the Revolution in the Kingdom of Poland (1905–1907), and represented one of the biggest actions in the history of OB PPS

Gabriel Narutowicz, the first president of Poland after regaining independence, was assassinated on 16 December 1922, five days after taking office.[1] He was fatally shot byEligiusz Niewiadomski, an artist and art critic, while visiting an exhibition at Warsaw'sZachęta gallery.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Terrorism_in_Poland

[David]

The dangers of irresponsible anti-Muslim rhetoric. This is more or less the mirror image of the attack in Brighton, except I'm guessing the usual suspects will be a little less eager to call this terrorism.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/forest-hill-stabbing-kill-muslims-attacker-suspect-station-london-train-a7470016.html

[Skids]

[Skids]

Jihad Report 
May 27, 2017 -
Jun 02, 2017

Attacks42
Killed536
Injured737
Suicide Blasts8
Countries14

Since then there have been a further 23 attacks up until yesterday. Killing another 141 people and wounding 162.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

[David]

[Skids]

So people voicing their concern is the cause of these atracks?
Your logic is like that of a piss weak parent appeasing a naughty child..... give them what they want to stop them misbehaving.

This arguement, along with the, refugees have no link to terrorism and all the other leftists insane excuses are wearing mighty thin.

I'm sorry David, but you and all the other snowflakes are in for a rude shock. I don't know how many more attacks or how many more deaths there have to be before the left finally admit to their terrible mistakes.

Again, Poland - NO refugees - NO terrorism..... HELLO!

[Culprit]

Let's ban all New Zealanders coming here as we have so many committing terrible crimes so they all must be evil.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/carl-stafford-jailed-for-10-years-for-rape-after-tribunal-allowed-him-to-stay-in-australia/news-story/bad616de358b0edd98a7db51a9fede9b